Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 12:57:36 10/10/00
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On October 10, 2000 at 15:21:32, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 10, 2000 at 12:56:36, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On October 10, 2000 at 09:36:39, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 10, 2000 at 01:53:27, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>On October 09, 2000 at 22:50:11, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 09, 2000 at 14:01:32, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 09, 2000 at 10:37:14, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On October 09, 2000 at 03:28:35, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On October 08, 2000 at 22:57:58, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>There was absolute no need for the moderators to interfere. Remember the >>>>>>>>>>occasion when you was subject to moderation? How did it feel? That's what >>>>>>>>>>you are doing each time you interfere so it better should be big when you >>>>>>>>>>decide to speak as a moderator using your power, because that is the >>>>>>>>>>position you have as an elected moderator. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>NOBODY interfered. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Yes you did. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>When I asked you the question if you were talking as CCC member or >>>>>>>>as CCC moderator you said the latter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Please. It seems definitions are very _loose_ today. Go look up "interfere" >>>>>>>and then tell me how I interefered in any of the chessmaster threads, in any >>>>>>>way or fashion. I _asked_ the poster to choose more suitable subject lines. >>>>>>>I didn't prevent him from posting _anything_. I didn't remove _anything_. >>>>>>>I didn't threaten to remove _anything_. I didn't threaten any kind of action >>>>>>>at _all_. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>So exactly how did I interfere? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>BH wrote: >>>>>>>>>and when the threads here also have complaints about the subjects. I don't >>>>>>>>>mind the chessmaster threads, as I said during moderator elections. But I >>>>>>>>>don't like "world cup underway". A person can't hold a "world cup" event. >>>>>> >>>>>>ES: >>>>>>>>Fine with me as long as you say that as a CCC member. >>>>>> >>>>>>BH: >>>>>>>I believe that this falls under the moderator job description. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Here for instance you admitted that your criticism to a header description >>>>>>was done in the role as moderator and not as being a CCC member. It is a >>>>>>warning to all CCC members. >>>>>> >>>>>>Do we need this? I don't think so. Which is and was my whole and only point. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ed >>>> >>>> >>>>>Why would it matter whether it was done as a member, a moderator, or by the >>>>>president of the United States? >>>> >>>>That we have discussed in length by now. Time to stop. >>>> >>>> >>>>>Did you go to school? >>>>> >>>>>College? >>>>> >>>>>If you did, how on earth did you respond when a teacher criticized your writing >>>>>style and suggested you do some things differently? That's all this was. >>>> >>>>A teacher teaches children. >>>> >>>>Ed >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Can we stop with the one-liners that have no thought behind them? >> >>Another moderator warning? >> >>My one-liner contained a serious hint and I think you are clever >>enough to get the point. >> >>Ed >> > > >No moderator warning of any kind. And your one liner didn't have any serious >content of any kind. I see no parallel with "children" and teaching. _I_ >teach _adults_ here at UAB. And yes, I have to correct their grammar, show them >how to write reasonable reports, how to document source code, etc. And no one >balks at the advice. I pointed out that someone was using an extremely poor >choice of subject line wordings that were misleading in the extreme. I asked >that he be more careful. As politely as I could have asked. > >If you had a serious point, perhaps you had better explain it better. Because >I am an associate professor of computer and information science (a teacher) >and I teach students in class that are _not_ children by any measure of the >word. But moderators are not here to teach lessons. This was Ed's point, and he had one. On the other hand, Bruce had a point too when he said that Ed should run for moderator. Moderating well is easier to advice than to do. Enrique >>>I am >>>teaching a class right now where 1/2 of the students are > 30 years old. Are >>>_they_ children? I distinctly said "college". IE beyond grade 12. I often >>>have one or two students in class that are _older_ than I am, this being a >>>graduate/Ph.D. program as well as an undergraduate program. >>> >>>BTW, I don't call _anyone_ 19 years old or more a "child". They are "adults". >>>Unless we are sending children off to fight wars. And letting children vote. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>>A >>>>>critical remark about the subject not agreeing with the body of the post. Any >>>>>writing teacher would complain if the title of a paper had _nothing_ to do with >>>>>the content. Or if the title was greatly misleading... >>>>> >>>>>I didn't even threaten to "flunk" him. :) Just asked him to be more >>>>>reasonable in choosing the subject. >>>>> >>>>>That certainly fits within the definition of "moderator". Again from my >>>>>Webster's...
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