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Subject: Re: Nolot Positions #1

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:12:09 11/27/00

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On November 27, 2000 at 22:10:07, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On November 27, 2000 at 21:52:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>What I was referring to was playing the right move with a score that is < 0,
>>when the move is a _winning_ move.  If the program _knows_ it is winning, it
>>will have a positive score...  If it doesn't know this, it is playing it for
>>the wrong reason.
>
>That's just a question of depth since the score is obviously improving. When a
>program is improving its score by chosing the right moves (to a certain extent
>as inaccuracy tends to creep in the further you go in the PV), then I consider
>it to be the right reason.
>
>If Nxh6 had been the only correct move in the PV, but the score > 0, then it's a
>right move for the wrong reason to me. The score will improve if the PV keeps on
>approaching the correct variation. You're doing a TC imitation by staring at the
>score IMHO.
>
>What score would imply "right reason" at depth 11?
>
>Mogens.


I disagree.  There have been multiple cases of programs being specifically
tuned to play certain moves in test positions.  The PV was "close" but missed
the important move that made the score _really_ improve.

Whether that happened in this case or not, I have no idea.  But when someone
says "white to play and _win_" and the program plays the right move but with
a score that says "if I could find a repetition I would take it in a heartbeat"
then I remain skeptical of its ability to really understand what is going on.
And suspect it is very likely that it may well go wrong...



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