Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:59:33 12/07/00
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On December 06, 2000 at 00:50:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On December 03, 2000 at 22:39:12, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On December 03, 2000 at 13:03:59, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >> >>>On December 03, 2000 at 12:14:56, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On December 03, 2000 at 06:22:37, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 02, 2000 at 21:10:25, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 02, 2000 at 14:11:54, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On December 02, 2000 at 12:20:41, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>(snip) >> >>>>>>>>I don't think you can compare Chess Tiger 13.0 + Gambit Tiger 1.0 with Shredder >>>>>>>>5 + Kamikaze Shredder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Gambit Tiger 1.0 is a genuine and honest attempt to improve both the engine and >>>>>>>>the playing strength, while Kamikaze Shredder is obviously a commercial attempt >>>>>>>>to jump on the bandwagon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Is it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Stefan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I wonder whose idea it is. Is it yours, or Weiner's? >>>>> >>>>>It was my idea. >>>>> >>>>>>BTW when I was looking for a name for what is now "Gambit Tiger", the name >>>>>>"Kamikaze" came to my mind. I rejected it because Gambit Tiger is NOT a >>>>>>kamikaze. It can play quietly when needed. >>>>> >>>>>You might be surprised, but there is also a Gambit Shredder on the Shredder5 CD, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I'm not surprised. I already knew you have copied the name "Gambit". >>> >>> >>>There was a "Kasparov Gambit" a couple of years ago :-) >> >> >> >> >>Kasparov Gambit is an old DOS program from 1993. It was not playing gambits BTW. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>as well as a Shredder Bean Counter, a Shredder Brute Force, a Solid Shredder. >>>>>All have different playing styles but have a similiar strength. You can use all >>>>>simultaneously for analysis to get different view for a certain positions or use >>>>>them together in the triple brain. >>>>> >>>>>What's your problem? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I'm a little bit disappointed. >>> >>> >>>You shouldn't be! Your Gambit is pretty good and successful. >> >> >> >> >>Probably the reason why the name "Gambit" is becoming more and more popular >>nowadays? ;) >> >> >> >> >> >>>>After winning the W(M)CCC several times, I thought you would position yourself >>>>as a leader and defend your own ideas, your own flag, your own name. >>> >>> >>>Yes, the name of my program is Shredder. >>> >>> >>>>Jumping in the bandwagon and sticking the name "Gambit" on one of your engines, >>>>after Gambit Tiger won both the French and Dutch championship is not what I was >>>>expecting from a leader. >>>> >>>>By doing so you position yourself as a follower. >>> >>> >>>Please don't interpret do much into this story. >> >> >> >> >>It's just that I was telling to myself: "well... Stefan is in computer chess >>since... how many years? Five? Six? Seven? What names has he been using for his >>programs? Only one, as far as I know: Shredder. What's the probability that he >>decides like that, out of the blue, to name one of his engines 'Gambit'???". >> >>And one thought leads to another, and you know, it's hard to find another >>explanation than "after the way users have welcomed Gambit Tiger, he has decided >>to be part of it and to stick the name Gambit to his program's name". >> >>No big deal. Maybe it's a kind of... tribute to Gambit Tiger??? ;) >> > > > >Isn't this the latest fad? Can you say "deep junior", "deep fritz"? Care >to guess where "deep" was first used? :) Ie what could be more confusing >than "deep junior" after there is already a very famous program that went >by "deep blue junior"??? > >Seems to me that borrowing from a "famous name" is quite acceptable, >wouldn't you think? Junior was before Deep blue Junior so IBM started borrowing from a "famous name". They could know that there is a name Junior for a chess program and they could use another name if they wanted to do it. Uri
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