Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 17:26:36 04/18/01
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On April 18, 2001 at 18:11:28, Chessfun wrote: >On April 17, 2001 at 15:12:19, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 17, 2001 at 13:54:59, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On April 17, 2001 at 13:40:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On April 17, 2001 at 10:25:33, Mogens Larsen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 17, 2001 at 09:57:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Supposed _I_ set up a tournament to choose the program to play? And then >>>>>>suppose _I_ said "if you want in, send me $50,000 to enter your program."?? >>>>>> >>>>>>Would you enter even if you _knew_ Rebel xx was the best in the world? And >>>>>>risk that kind of money to get in knowing that one game can be lost due to a >>>>>>bad book line or bug? >>>>>> >>>>>>Charging an entry fee is a bit of a joke, IMHO. >>>>>> >>>>>>It means the deeper your pockets, the better your chances... >>>>> >>>>>Well, at least there's a refund for those that don't make it :-). >>>>> >>>>>Seriously, can anyone blaim SMK for not handing over $5000 and Shredder to a >>>>>third party for this socalled qualifier? I think not. >>>>> >>>>>Mogens. >>>> >>>> >>>>Let's try a different approach. Let _me_ handle the qualification tournament. >>>>Here are my rules: >>> >>>Making posts as above "is a bit of a joke, IMHO" since you clearly hadn't >>>even bothered reading the current rules well enough to know the $5,000.00 >>>was refunded to losing programs. >> >>What makes you conclude that? I can read perfectly well. But I would not >>send $5,000.00 in no matter what, because I try to spend my money more wisely >>than that. > > >You wrote "risk that kind of money" as in if the program lost the money >was forfeit. That wasn't the case as already posted by Bertil. >No you change that to sending the money in.. Do you get it back under _any_ circumstance? No. So you pay it and take a chance on getting it back. That is the classic definition of "risk" in my Webster's... Since there is a circumstance where I won't get it back. > > >>> >>>>Any publicly released chess program can enter. Including patches. So Rebel >>>>could enter 2 programs since Ed has (I think) released the original rebel plus >>>>a patch this year. I get to enter all 19 released versions of Crafty. If those >>>>are the only two entries, care to bet who is going to win? Statistically one >>>>of my 19 versions will win even if all are worse than either of Ed's two >>>>versions. >>>> >>>>This is what has happened if you include Deep Shredder, Deep Fritz, and Deep >>>>Junior. A trivia question: Which chess distributor has the best chance of >>>>winning that event? :) >>>> >>>>It is called "stacking the deck in your favor." >>> >>>Hogwash. Tell that to Amir Ban. In your case above tell me that Amir >>>wouldn't want to win as much as Stefan and that his odds of doing so >>>are greater due to your "stacking the deck in your favor." theory. >> >>No. But the "distributor" certainly has a big interest in having one of >>"Its" engines as the competitor. So it is not "hogwash" at all. It is >>plain marketing, front-to-back... > > >The distributor does yes. But how does the distributor stck the deck >when the choices are made by two independant people? By having _two_ of his programs in the contest to _one_ from the opponents... Two programs have a greater probability of winning than one. IE we simply play 'high card wins'. But I get two cards each time and you get one. Who wins the most? > >Sarah.
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