Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:15:16 04/30/01
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On April 30, 2001 at 10:01:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 30, 2001 at 07:22:24, Alvaro Polo wrote: > >>Hello all, >> >>In a recent interview Kramnik states that "We are in a very interesting phase, >>when the strength of the best GMs and that of the best chess engines run by the >>best processors are about equal." >> >>I know that this point (machines being GM strenght or nor) has been debated >>again and again and I don't intend to post a troll. I would just like to know if >>the consensus now among chess programmers is wether Kramnik is right or not. For >>instance, I remember Bob Hyatt saying that computers are really 2450, etc. But >>software evolves, CPU power evolves and perhaps now there is agreement that >>machines are finally GM strenght? >> >>Thanks. >> >>Alvaro Polo > > >I personally think my estimate is still pretty close. Computers have two >serious problems: > >1. opening books. They depend on a human to "play the game" of choosing good >and bad openings. This leaves them highly vulnerable to opening preparation and >traps. Particularly when you practice against one copy and then play another >copy which doesn't have the 'learning' from the practice games. I think it is unfair to use this way to decide about the level of chess programs. I am more interested to know the results of programs when the opponent cannot get a copy of the program. When Deep thought and Deep blue played against humans the opponents could not get a copy of the program so I see no reason to let them to get a copy of the programs before the game. I think that letting the opponent to get a copy before the match should be allowed only after programs can prove that they can beat the best humans without giving them a copy before the match. Uri
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