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Subject: Re: 3 top authors in one room for a year

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 12:59:42 08/27/01

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On August 27, 2001 at 13:07:31, Roy Eassa wrote:

>On August 27, 2001 at 12:03:53, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 2001 at 14:18:27, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>
>>Ok let's be clear here. I've been on several tournaments now and
>>what i have learned about technical things from Stefan Meyer Kahlen
>>in all those years is summarized in the next few new lines, which is
>>about what the other 2 persons would learn too:
>
>
>The theory here is that $5,000,000 might just loosen those tight lips -- no say,
>no pay.

All of the programmers share probably that they tried loads of different
algorithms. Nowadays i already see in advance that something is usually
not going to work, but if i would sum up what i have tried over the
years that's already a lot, not to mention guys like Stefan, Frans
etc.

In short they could write books full of crap for that $5MLN without
saying a thing.

Also i think $5MLN divided by 3 persons is 1.6M, if you need to
live the rest of your life from 1.6M then that's pretty little money
to open your mouth!

>We could just substitute another top author -- does Marty Hirsch still
>have lots of unique knowlege?  (And I really wasn't trying to invite attacks on
>individuals.)

I'm not attacking any individual at all, i'm just saying
that the combination of persons you mgiht want to is not going to
reveal much for $1.6M

(ah that was a bad bummer for you?)

The persons that would show you every byte of their
source code for 1.6M$ are not the guys you want, unless you
go for promising programmers who have still have to make name.

I definitely think that Marty Hirsch is a founder of computerchess,
one of the great hero's from the past.

Nowadays software is so much better than software from the past.

The number of testers in computerchess that give programmers ideas
you can count them all on 2 hands.

Note that just 1 idea a year is also not going to work if the number
of testers is that small.

If i would have had to make a team my own i would be definitely inside,
as i'm a chessprogrammer AND i can play chess. For implementation in
assembly you need a smart guy like Frans Morsch, he'll give
extra speed for free and he can make the search superb.

For superb testing and fine tuning and focussing on the right plan
in the position you get on the board i'd take Stefan.

A strong bookmaker is definitely required. I would have hard problems
picking either Jeroen Noomen or Alexander Kure.

But well, if all details of such a project are going to get revealed,
like source code, and book given free,

I'm not so sure whether you can get all that for $5M only in that case.
Would put a zero behind it to be sure.

$5M is not so much if you need to split it.

Also what most people overlook is that the programmer itself is
a crucial man but for scoring not always the most crucial.

A crucial part is the guy making a book too nowadays, and also crucial
is the testteam the programmer has collected around him.

Oh i forgot, i would also take Amir, to just get lucky at the worldchamps...

Best regards,
Vincent







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