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Subject: Re: Could Programmers here working together simulate DB's Knowledge??

Author: Antonio Dieguez

Date: 09:53:20 11/19/01

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On November 19, 2001 at 10:00:00, José Carlos wrote:

>On November 18, 2001 at 18:11:04, Antonio Dieguez wrote:
>
>>On November 18, 2001 at 17:58:07, Jesper Antonsson wrote:
>>
>>>On November 18, 2001 at 16:38:12, Antonio Dieguez wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 18, 2001 at 12:48:37, Jesper Antonsson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 18, 2001 at 11:03:39, Antonio Dieguez wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 18, 2001 at 04:42:33, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>>>>The real gain would be to marry the hardware of D.B. to the software algoritms
>>>>>>>of Fritz7 or Chess Tiger IMHO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yep, that programs with 200 MNPS should be much more stronger than Deep Blue...
>>>>>
>>>>>Again, that seems like speculation to me.
>>>>
>>>>Yes it is.
>>>>
>>>>I think I would win a bet here anyway :)
>>>
>>>Well, I doubt it, partly because such a Fritz wouldn't be tuned for the speed,
>>>partly because I doubt that their eval is better. But, if you wait 10 years or
>>>so (hopefully), when you can run at 200 Mnps on a serial machine, and then run
>>>new software on that machine, I think *that* machine would be much stronger than
>>>DB, for several reasons. :-)
>>
>>Deep Blue was tuned for its speed, so that is an advantadge for it, but even
>>that way, I hope programs of today can still run on that machine and that they
>>are tested a lot to convince anyone about any conclusion. Time will tell... let
>>stop speculations! :)
>
>  I missed this thread, so maybe someone has already pointed this yet, but I'll
>say it anyway:
>
>  1. This has been discussed here many times.
>  2. You can speculate on the strength of Fritz at 200Mnps under some certain
>circumstances you should state before speculating, but you can't speculate on
>Fritz running on DB hardware. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

If Fritz 7 running at 200MNPS were stronger than DB (if that is possible to
conclude with DB'logs only) then I would think DB search logic is worse, seems
reasonable, and not uninteresting at all.
(of course I don't expect Fritz running on DB, who said that?)

> The closer
>you can get to that concept is "give Frans the same resources the DB team had
>and let's see if he can build a stronger machine". DB hardware is not a general
>purpose PC.
>
>  José C.



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