Author: Slater Wold
Date: 07:16:56 03/13/02
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On March 13, 2002 at 07:26:08, Chris Carson wrote: >On March 13, 2002 at 04:09:54, Jerry Doby wrote: > >>It's hard to believe that anything can be that much strongeer then fritz7 on a >>fast platform. Is deepblue 100 elo or above deepfritz on an xp 2000 > >OK, I will bite and get a debate going most likely. First take a look at: >http://home.interact.se/~w100107/manmachine.htm > >Tony's page has the results for both Top programs today and Deep Blue. > >Here is a brief comparison: > >Deep Blue 97 2862 6 games >Chess Tiger 2788 11 games >Deep Junior 2702 9 games >Rebel Cen 2697 4 games >Deep Fritz 2678 12 games > >None of the Commercial programs are on fastest HW today. Deep Blue only played >6 games against one opponent that did not get to prepare (Rebel opponent played >100 games against Rebel before the match). My guess is that Deep Blue rating >would drop by 100 to 200 points if put to a serious test. The Commercial >programs would be 100 points stronger on fastest HW. So they are about the same >or slight favorite to the commercials. I think Rebel, Tiger on fastest single >processors and Deep F/J on fastest mps would beat DB 97 in a match. > >My conclusion is that 5 years after the match, the commercial programs rule. I >think that the gap was closed a couple of years ago. The thinking here just blows my mind. I cannot even begin to *imagine* why people would say something so silly. You're talking about a chess program, that used the _same_ exact search techniques that are used in 80% of the top engines today. While 5 years worth of research probably makes todays top commercial engines more "refined", but when it comes down to it, they are basically the same. With that said, now imagine your search is 100x faster. That has _GOT_ to be worth some ELO. 200M nps vs Fritz 7's 1M nps (on today's top HW) is hardly comparable. Just use the rule of HW speed. 2x the mhz is usually worth about 50 ELO. It wouldn't take much to get 250 ELO out of the speed of DB.
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