Author: Günther Simon
Date: 19:29:21 10/08/02
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On October 08, 2002 at 21:39:12, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On October 08, 2002 at 18:11:35, Günther Simon wrote: > >>>>Unfair comparison >>>>Kramnik got the program before the match and kasparov did not. >>>> >>>>It is natural to suspect that kramnik planned the positional mistakes of Fritz >>>>beofore the games by trying many openings to find openings that Fritz plays bad >>>>positional moves. >>> >>>didn't you notice that kramnik is playing his usual openings? he doesnt look >>>like he has "tried many openings". he plays his normal systems and beats fritz >>>with them. >>>he would have done the same if he had practised with fritz 6 or with any other >>>strong computer program! >>> >>>aloha >>> martin >> >> >>How do you know? Isnt it natural to test ones usual openings first and >>the DF reactions towards them? Therefore I dont see any contradiction >>to Uris statement - I am pretty sure that he did very well _know_ that >>DF will i.e. play this Bf8 move in the 2nd game. (BTW if you have F7 >>at home you can see that this one also wants to play Bf8 in the same >>position...) >>Once again, why should he have planned with unfamiliar openings when >>he had one full year time to test his usual ones for DF inferior answers? >> >>Regards, >>Günther > >Günther, > >I'm a bit astonished that you seem to take the usual journalism as a correct >mirror of real life. I mean did you see or hear the evidence fromKramnik himself >or are you combiningyourself what could have happened? Do you really believe >that Kramnik should have played and worked hard with Fritz vor over 15 months >now?? I don't thinks so. Of course Fritz is a training tool also for GM but I >think that Kramnik must not work for months to discover what is weak in such a >program. But of course you won't tell the press. Simply because that would cause >problems to the sponsors! > >I think that those are correct who say that he had never Bf8 on his display. Or >would you think that he had thought for 14 minutes? > >I think further that you identification with the ChessBase team goes a bit too >far if you now insinuate that Kramnik should lie about the truth. Because he had >already stated that he didn't know the move as someone said. > >Why starting such conspiracies? > >Let's enjoy the rest of the games! > >Rolf Tueschen I find it strange too, seeing me put into the CB corner when I suppose the easiest way of proceeding for Kramnik or where did I wrote that it was 'hard work' for Kramnik to find holes in DF openings? I am also pretty sure that the opening book Kramnik had been given was 99,9% the same that is used now for this match. Moreover despite some messages here I did not see Kramniks comments denying the knowledge about Bf8 in his own words just statements of other people who said that they were told what Kramnik might have said... Further I dont see any relation to something you call 'conspiracy'? Isnt it just naively to assume Kramnik did _not_ spend a _bit_ of time to prepare for this match as he was the first one who had the biggest chance for preparation to such a match ever in Computerchess history? IMHO even a 1900+ player might have some chances for at least a whole point in this match being familiar with DF style and the biggest part of its opening book.(To clarify: I have absolutely no relations to CB which is a known fact in the WB world ;) Günther Simon
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