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Subject: Re: Q&A with Feng-Hsiung Hsu

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 11:14:13 10/13/02

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On October 13, 2002 at 13:50:24, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

for any chessprogrammer it is very clear Jeremiah.

It's 12 ply and the 6 only means that the hardware search can
be up to 6 ply within that 12 ply nominal.

it's excluding extensions and qsearch moves of course that depth.

Very clear to me.

Also page 5 from artificial intelligence: "nominal depth 12.2 ply average"

very clear to me.

>On October 13, 2002 at 13:19:34, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 2002 at 12:00:39, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>Several people asked:
>>>
>>>Question: What does "12(6)" mean in Deep Blue's logs?
>>>
>>>Dr Hsu said, "12(6) means 12 plies of brute force (not counting the search
>>>extensions & quiescence). 6 means the maximum hardware search depth allowed.
>>>this means that the PV could be up to 6 plies deeper before quiescence."
>>>
>>>Unfortunately questions were being fed through a third-party, so it wasn't
>>>possible to get a follow-up.
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>How about this one?
>>
>>EeEk(* DM) kiebitzt: kib question from ardee: Does "12(6)" mean 12 total ply or
>>12+6=18 total ply?  This has the been source of huge arguments for years!
>>CrazyBird(DM) kiebitzt: 12 total in terms of brute force. 6 is just the max
>>partition in hardware.
>>
>>This one sounds pretty clear to me.
>
>I still don't think that's very clear.  What does he mean by 'brute force'?
>The other answer to that question[1] implies that 12 is the software depth, and
>the hardware could add a maximum of 6 plies, not counting quiescence.  If not,
>then it's still impossible to explain a number like 4(5), which comes up more
>than once in the logs.
>
>[1] - Dr Hsu said, "12(6) means 12 plies of brute force (not counting the search
>extensions & quiescence). 6 means the maximum hardware search depth allowed.
>this means that the PV could be up to 6 plies deeper before quiescence."



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