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Subject: Re: Fischer - Panno, 1970 [it's not a good test position]

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 09:18:13 12/27/02

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On December 27, 2002 at 02:45:16, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On December 26, 2002 at 19:53:10, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>On December 26, 2002 at 19:34:25, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>28. Be4!  a super grandmaster move, by a super grandmaster.
>>>
>>>Any programs come up with this?
>>>[d]2nq1nk1/5p1p/4p1pQ/pb1pP1NP/1p1P2P1/1P4N1/P4PB1/6K1 w - -
>>
>>It looks like White can insert the zwischenzug 28.hxg6, whereafter Black has to
>>defend against the simple threat gxh7+ Kh8 (Nxh7 doesn't make much sense either)
>>Nxf7 mate, first. IOW it looks to me as if Be4 doesn't have to be played
>>immediatly (I didn't analyse much).
>>
>>It's often a problem with test positions when the attacker can play a simple but
>>strong threat alternatively (and delay the intended solution, so you don't know
>>if the program has missed it or is just going to play it later...).
>>
>>Analysis by Fritz 7 (P3/700, 96 MB hash):
>>
>>1.hxg6 fxg6 2.Nxh7 Nxh7 3.Qxg6+ Kh8 4.Qxe6 Bd7 5.Qxd5 Ng5 6.Nf5 Ne6
>>  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:00  301kN
>>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:23  7799kN
>>1.Be4 Be8 2.hxg6 hxg6 3.Nh5 gxh5 4.Bh7+ Nxh7 5.Nxh7 f5 6.Nf6+ Kf7 7.Nxh5 Ke7
>>8.Qg7+
>>  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:38  12492kN
>>  ±  (1.09)   Depth: 13/36   00:01:09  23280kN
>>
>>Regards,
>>M.Scheidl
>
>Hi Mike
>I fully agree. This test position is not a good one because at least three moves
>are easily winning here, namely 1.Be4, 1.hxg6 and 1.Nxh7
>
>Below the analysis of Shredder7 ond P4 1.8/32 MB hash:
>
>New game
>2nq1nk1/5p1p/4p1pQ/pb1pP1NP/1p1P2P1/1P4N1/P4PB1/6K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 7:
>
>1.hxg6 hxg6 2.Qh8+ Kxh8 3.Nxf7+ Kg8 4.Nxd8 g5 5.Nb7 a4 6.bxa4 Bc4 7.Nd6 Nxd6
>8.exd6 Bxa2
>  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>  +-  (2.21)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:01  525kN
>1.Nxh7 Nxh7 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Qxg6+ Kh8 4.Qxe6 Ne7 5.Nf5 Nxf5 6.gxf5 Qc7 7.Qh6
>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:02  631kN
>  +-  (2.29)   Depth: 15/41   00:01:57  31632kN
>1.Be4 Be8 2.hxg6 hxg6 3.Nh5 gxh5 4.Bh7+ Nxh7 5.Nxh7 f5 6.exf6 Qc7 7.f7+ Kh8
>  +-  (2.30)   Depth: 15/42   00:03:52  60969kN
>  +-  (2.30)   Depth: 15/42   00:03:52  60969kN
>
>(Utzinger, MyTown 27.12.2002)


It may not be a good test position - I was just admiring the game itself.  I am
reviewing Chess Informant "DEMO BASE" with 500 annotated games selected from
various Informants.  Their new software, which I purchased, "Chess Informant
Expert 4.0"( about $52) -- is very very cool.  It allows for full import and
export of CI electronic Informants to PGN and vica-versa.  This could be very
useful in building a quality book :>).

There are also little known secrets in acquiring all of the Chess Informants
books electronically (and legally) at modest cost.

Chess Informant 83 CD,  includes as a special bonus, all of the Chess Informant
Games Volume 1-82 in PGN format(without annotations).  It's highlighted on thier
webpage ( http://www.sahovski.com/default.htm) , just go to the "Shop online"
select electronic editions and find the "Chess Informants 83 & 84".
You will get "Chess Informants 83 and 84 CD" for price of one(about $32).  So
for about $84, you can get Chess Informants 1-84 electronically with software
that you will allow you to export and import into PGN files.

Michael Byrne







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