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Subject: Re: Why can't Kasparov play Shredder 7.04 or 8.0?

Author: Jim Bond

Date: 16:29:36 11/06/03

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On November 05, 2003 at 18:33:14, Amir Ban wrote:

>On November 05, 2003 at 17:24:27, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>Why can't the real interests and passions of the chess (computer) world be given
>>more consideration, in having Kasparov play something which has already been top
>>for some time, and is clearly reported to be stronger at next release, such as
>>Shredder?
>>
>>Kasparov already played fritz recently (or was it Kramnik? same thing really)
>>and both Fritz and Junior achieved the disgusting result (for their rivals) of a
>>draw each in matches against the two top humans.
>>
>>Why do we need more of that now?
>>
>>All we want to see now is that Kasparov is ripped to shreds from software, and
>>that will make us completely sure that computers are better from then on, and
>>then we won't need any more such matches. So in order to achieve this, wouldn't
>>it be better to have the best possible program against him?
>>
>>Do we have to waste another few years to see what we want to see? Isn't it
>>public inconvenience?
>>
>>If now he either draws again, or wins by half a point, wouldn't it be more
>>meaningful (showing that Kasparov is not beatable by a machine quite yet) if the
>>program he plays against is as much as possible stronger (and different) from
>>the last programs which Kasparov and Kamnik drew with?
>>
>>S.Taylor
>
>Stuart, why is this match necessary ?
>
>Let's see:
>
>Shredder is proven to be the strongest program.
>
>THEREFORE
>
>It is known that Shredder will kill Kasparov.
>
>THEREFORE
>
>No Shredder match is necessary.
>
>So what's wrong with letting us weaker guys play ?
>
>Amir


Because it proves that there is a bias toward Shredder.  There is a marketing
strategy for weaker computer chess programs.  It shows that the stronger do not
get a chance to show for itself due monetary reasons.  Your commercial program
is not that strong after all.
Jim






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