Author: Peter Fendrich
Date: 13:20:45 06/15/04
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On June 15, 2004 at 15:33:36, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On June 15, 2004 at 15:14:45, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On June 15, 2004 at 14:30:48, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>On June 15, 2004 at 13:38:56, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On June 12, 2004 at 16:57:06, Peter Fendrich wrote: >>> >>>>>Well after 10 games you can't even rely on the accuracy of error bars and >>>>>shouldn't use them (based on the bell curve) but the rating is well defined as >>>>>one value. "x's rating after 10 games is 2739" is a correct statement. >>>> >>>>That is misleading and very bad science. >>>>Why not say that the rating is >>>>2739.8356245494183672715153891736273563 >>>>? >>>>Even though you are not even sure about the leading 2. >>>> >>>>>/Peter >>> >>> >>>Is Peter one of the statistical scientists behind the creation of SSDF? I can't >>>believe it. >> >>I think he is just following current practice (for instance a FIDE, USCF, BCF >>etc. rating does not descibe its own accuracy). >> >>When a player is said to have a rating of 2345 what does it mean? We have no >>idea, although for the very rough ratings they are called 'provisional'. >> >>It is much better to describe the ratings like an entry in (for instance) the >>CRC handbook of chemistry and physics, with a tolerance figure to show how well >>known and accurately described the rating is. >> >>But since nobody else does it, they do not follow the practice either. >> >>On the other hand, they provide the necessary data to produce the same >>information, with their error bars. > >Dann - of course!! But isn't this here about what should be the best to do >(scientifically)? I mean, could we play stupid only because testing has no real >importance in a sport where winning is the ultimate ratio? I thought a minority >here should guarantee a certain state of the art... We could in fact invent a much better rating system for chess engines. The ELO system is designed for humans with a sparse number of games and not for hundreds and thousands of games in long matches. But it works. IMHO it's however not very practical with another rating system when the ELO system is the chess rating standard. /Peter >[Just like Germany that leads 1-0 in a preround soccer match against Netherlands >at the European Championships in Portugal...] > >:)
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