Author: Daniel Jackson
Date: 11:01:56 10/04/04
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On October 04, 2004 at 13:52:56, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On October 04, 2004 at 09:22:40, Daniel Jackson wrote: > >>On October 04, 2004 at 08:54:20, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: >> >>>On October 04, 2004 at 01:12:58, Daniel Jackson wrote: >>> >>>>CM10 Default on a slow PIII 500 can't hold Black's position, even before Kramnik >>>>made errors. >>>> >>>>I don't trust CM10 to handle this endgame, still it does show that 15..a6 >>>>followed by 16.Bxa6 is better for White and is difficult to defend. >>>>BTW CM10 couldn't find 16.Bxa6, I had to manually input the moves, then set it >>>>to autoplay. If there is a draw, I'll have to start at 24.gxf3 or even earlier. >>>>This exchange to the endgame isn't particularly good. It may be down right >>>>terrible!? >>>> >>>>Kramnik imho played a bad line regardless of its draw record, and if programs >>>>can't see 16.Bxa6! is good then they can't "understand" the nuances of the far >>>>reaching consequences that arise after 16.Bxa6! >>>> >>>> >>>>40/2 Tournament Time Controls >>>> >>>>[Event ""] >>>>[Site ""] >>>>[Date "2004.10.3"] >>>>[Round ""] >>>>[White "Chessmaster"] >>>>[Black "Chessmaster"] >>>>[TimeControl "40/7200"] >>>>[Result "*"] >>>> >>>>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Bf4 O-O 6.e3 c5 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.cxd5 >>>>Nxd5 9.Nxd5 exd5 10.a3 Nc6 11.Bd3 Bb6 12.O-O Bg4 13.h3 Bh5 14.b4 Re8 >>>>15.Rc1 a6 16.Bxa6 Rxa6 17.b5 Rxa3 18.bxc6 bxc6 19.Rxc6 Ra7 20.Rd6 Rd7 >>>>21.Qxd5 Rxd6 22.Qxd6 Qxd6 23.Bxd6 Bxf3 24.gxf3 Bd8 25.Rb1 Bf6 26.Kg2 g6 >>>>27.f4 Kg7 28.Rb7 Re6 29.Rd7 Re8 30.Ra7 Re6 31.Bc5 Rc6 32.Ra5 Bc3 33.Rb5 >>>>Ra6 34.Rb3 Bf6 35.Rb8 h5 36.Rb5 Bc3 37.Rb3 Bf6 38.e4 Ra5 39.Be3 Ra4 >>>>40.e5 Be7 41.Rb7 Kf8 42.Rb8+ Kg7 43.Kf3 Rc4 44.Ke2 Ra4 45.Kd3 Ra3+ >>>>46.Kc4 Ra4+ 47.Kd5 Ra5+ 48.Kc6 Ra6+ 49.Rb6 Ra8 50.Rb7 Kf8 51.Ba7 Rc8+ >>>>52.Kd5 Rc3 53.Rb8+ Kg7 54.Be3 Ra3 55.Rb7 Ra5+ 56.Kc4 Kf8 57.Rb8+ Kg7 >>>>58.Bd4 Ra4+ 59.Kd5 Bh4 60.Rc8 Kh7 61.f3 Rb4 62.Rc6 Ra4 63.Rc7 Kg8 >>>>64.Rc8+ Kh7 65.Rc4 Rxc4 66.Kxc4 Kg7 67.Kd5 Kf8 68.Ke4 Ke7 69.f5 gxf5+ >>>>70.Kxf5 Kd7 71.f4 Be7 72.Ke4 Kc6 73.f5 Bh4 74.f6 Kd7 75.Kf5 Kd8 76.e6 >>>>Ke8 77.Bc5 Bg3 78.Kg5 Be5 79.h4 Bb2 80.Be7 Bc1+ 81.Kxh5 Be3 82.Bd6 * >>>> >>>>I resigned the game for Chessmaster as Black is hopelessly lost. >>>The programs dont play Bxa6 for good reasons ; analyze the game with any program >>>and you willsee that 20...Ra7 was the error ; if he plays 20...Re6 instead White >>>has nothing ;for example Fritz 6 considers 20...Ra7? an error.Also from your >>>previous post I gather that you may have the time controls wrong. The second >>>time control is 20 moves in 1 hour and the third time control is game in 15 >>>minutes with 30 second increments. >> >>20..Ra7 wasn't the best no, 20..Re6 is better but leaves White slightly better. > >This is ridiculous. >Anand and Kramnik played 20...Ra7 in this position although they _of course_ >knew about the possibility 20...Re6 (It was played before). >They obviously thought it isn´t better at all after home analysis. >You tell us they were wrong without any supporting analysis? Well he lost didn't he? The line sucks! I don't need to rip it apart to realize this. Who are you to say this is ridiculous! Check yourself or use a computer or both....the line stinks! As for supporting analysis, Leko gave plenty! > >> >>Forget the T/C, I wasn't trying to reproduce them...my point is the line Kramnik >>chose wasn't the best, and it gives White an early shot to seize the intiative. >> >>AFAIAC the T/C should be exactly as they were in the 80's, but that is another >>story.
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