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Subject: Re: Fruit 2 and endgame play

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 11:02:53 01/12/05

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On January 12, 2005 at 13:01:29, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On January 12, 2005 at 12:42:05, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>So let me see if I understand this conversation correctly.
>>
>>1. I state that the 6 man tables are worth 100 elo
>
>I thought you were joking, but obviously I was wrong.
>

I have no quantitative way of accurately guessing this too - but "depends on
program" maynot be a wrong statement ?
And both are definitely agreeing that there is a non-trivial improvement in
performance - right ? Then why disagree for the sake of disagreeing !!!!


>>
>>2. You disagree, and state they are worth 50 elo
>>
>>3. You do this by pulling numbers out of your ***
>>
>>4.  Since the full 6-man set hasn't been generated, and the elo gain is almost
>>certainly different for different programs, we are both guessing.
>
>Yes, but in this case Uri's guess is much more educated.

Hmm , I dont see how - just 'cos there was a "women" reference ? :)
Jokes apart - the point to be taken is - they could be a SIGNIFICANT improvement
: and would be the world of difference between a loss and a draw (or a draw and
a win).
Depends on how you eval , and what you do in your search (extensions and qsearch
/threat detection).
Ofcourse , if you have a junk endgame eval with quiet decent middle game eval -
your improvement can be much higher than what both of them quote !

But are we not quibbling over nitty gritty details ?? 50 , 100 , 125 - what does
it matter : it would be a substantial improvement !!!


Mridul

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