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Subject: Re: Strange endgame play by S8

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 17:05:52 01/28/05

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On January 28, 2005 at 11:52:25, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On January 28, 2005 at 06:17:49, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 28, 2005 at 04:37:59, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>>
>>>On January 27, 2005 at 16:37:11, Richard Harrison wrote:
>>>
>>>>In the following position, Shredder 8 plays the blunder move 66. Qxf4??  This
>>>>move loses quickly. [After 15 minutes of thinking, still likes Qxf4]
>>>>
>>>>S7.04 does not deviate from 66. Qb2 and recognizes the draw instantly.  Ruffian
>>>>1.05 also plays Qb2 (0.00)
>>>>
>>>>What does your Shredder 8 play?
>>>>
>>>>[D]8/8/8/2K5/1Q3pP1/4nP2/3pk3/8 w - - 0 66
>>>
>>>White is clearly better after Qxf4.
>>>
>>>In the endgame just counting the material isn't so reliable any more.
>>>
>>>Vas
>>
>>I disagree.
>>I think that black has better winning chances.
>>
>>winning a pawn and getting drawn KN vs KP is no problem for black after Qxf4
>>and black can also try other ideas.
>>
>>in human game I will try to win with black.
>>
>>The white pawns are not advanced enough to make me afraid of promotion in the
>>near future and I feel sure that in the worst case I can draw by perpetual check
>>and maybe I can win the queen of the opponent after a mistake preventing the
>>opponent to force trading queens is easy.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Uri,
>
>let me tell you a little chess story. I play in the German league for
>Hungen-Lich, a very small city. We have quite a few teams actually - some a bit
>more discinplined than other - and one of them is called the "pub" team. Every
>year, from each league, a few teams get moved up, and a few teams get kicked
>down - and as you might guess in the last match last year our pub team was
>fighting for their life to stay in the league. To stay, they had to draw their
>last match.
>
>Now, you might think that anybody who calls themselves the pub team wouldn't
>give a rat's ass about getting kicked - but in this case you would think wrong.
>Let's face it - it might be fun to drink a little bit, but if you get kicked by
>some chumps it's just not so funny anymore. So, the big match is underway - and
>the pub team is behind, 4-3. It's down to the last game, they need a win to stay
>in the league, and their guy has bishop and wrong-colored rook pawn, nothing
>else.
>
>Can he pull it off?
>
>After a few swigs, the pub team guy moves up his pawn, and then brings the king
>in for the final assault. The defending king is in the corner, with fewer and
>fewer escape squares. The defender - sober, but under great pressure all game -
>the tension and the danger of great humiliation working on his mind - the empty
>bottles on the table clouding his vision - starts to panic - worries about
>getting mated, and flees into the open space. The pawn promotes, the new queen
>closes in, and the pub team keeps their spot. The guy who lost was ready to cry.
>
>SO what's the point here?
>
>If you join our pub team - and it's not clear that you have the credentials -
>and if you have the balls to get drunk for the match that might kick you from
>the league - then we can talk about how you'll win this with black.
>
>But wait - that's not the end. After the victorious match, the loser of this
>game was furious. After mulling over his humiliation, he gathered himself up and
>wrote a big letter to the German federation, and as it turns out it's illegal to
>have alcohol at the match - although it had been going on all year and nobody
>else was crying about it. So, the match was forfeited, and the pub team got
>kicked after all and even had to pay a fine.
>
>So let me know if you want to file a pub team application ...
>
>Vas

I do not see the connection.

KBP vs K is an easy draw when the bishop is blind and it is eady to prove it
mathematically.

Here I am not sure that it is an easy draw and I suspect that there may happen a
position when the side with the knight may give some checks and force mate or
win the queen.

Uri




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