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Subject: Re: Will the CM6K result, will this force chess programs down even more

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 11:10:24 03/30/99

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On March 30, 1999 at 12:50:02, KarinsDad wrote:
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>I do not follow your logic Dann (I could just be dense).
>
>If Mindscape can put out an extremely strong engine (regardless of whether CM6
>stays at the top of the SSDF or not) at a reasonable price, then it seems
>reasonable that other commercial manufacturers could as well.
I agree that Mindscape's software is a very good buy.  They have a volume (if
reports are to be believed) several orders of magnitude larger than anyone else.
 That gives them a sizeable edge in abilty to reduce margin.

>Taking the opposite extreme of your example, there are a lot of luxury cars and
>SUVs on the market that could be priced at 2/3rds or even lower of their current
>market price. However, since they are considered prestigious (i.e. near the top
>of their equivalent SSDF list), the market will bear a much greater price. The
>improved feature set of these luxury vehicles is basically irrelevant in regard
>to reality (it is the perception that counts).
>
>I think the same could be said with the chess program manufacturers. They are
>priced at what the market will bear and if a significantly lower priced set of
>software is rated by the industry as "just as good" or "better", then it should
>start taking a larger market share (and the other products will either have to
>lower prices, improve their products, or take a market share hit).
Which is what we are seeing.  Chess software prices are tumbling, and yet they
are tiny in volume of sales for most manufacturers.  If you only sell a few
thousand copies, and you must cover the salaries of all your employees, how much
can you plow back into R&D?

>Finally, I have purchased a few chess programs and databases over the years and
>have been EXTREMELY disappointed with the feature set. And this has been with
>the current model of high price for the "strong engines". Although the engines
>analyze fine, the concept of a high margin to improve research and development
>has applied mostly to the engines and only marginally to the rest of the
>product. So, maybe what the computer chess community really needs is some true
>competition to make the commercial manufacturers hungry again.
The competition that is purely price based drives features down.  If I cannot
make you see that, then I don't know what else to say.

>KarinsDad :)



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