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Subject: Re: 3 trouble-maker positions [discussed previously] Expert opinions needed

Author: Mark Young

Date: 16:55:02 05/18/99

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On May 18, 1999 at 19:51:43, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 18, 1999 at 19:45:52, Mark Young wrote:
>[snip]
>>I know this, and is why I do not search this way. My point was he never asked,
>>and the last time he still rejected hiarcs7, even though Hiarcs7 was the only
>>program to find the BM, and no I did not give it the BM that time either.
>I have no idea what you are talking about.  Hiarcs is one of my favorite
>programs and I use it all the time for C.A.P.  However, if you specify a bm
>beforehand, H7 quits looking.  This often produces absurd results, as reflected
>by the chosen pv.
>
>>The last time Dann rejected Hiarcs7 results because he did not like the score
>>produced by Hiarcs7, even though its line of play was correct, and hiarcs7 was
>>the only program to find the BM.
>It has nothing to do with what tool is being used.  If the ce is bad, then the
>tool has not found the right move yet, only blundered onto it.  This should be
>immediately obvious because the tool itself does not like the choice given.
>
>>If someone can tell me the logic behind rejecting Hiarcs7 results, only because
>>it can solve some postions in a negitive way, meaning seeing that all other move
>>lose quickly thus finding the BM in a negitive way.
>I don't reject Hiarcs.  Also, it was not the only tool to find the answers.  At
>any rate, I already knew the answers, I wanted to see if a program could
>legitimately find them.
>
>>To me both ways of finding a correct move have equal weight, seeing the one move
>>that wins, or seeing that all other moves are clearly worse thus finding the
>>best move.
>Finding a best move without knowing why is nothing more than blundering onto it
>by accident.  If the ce is negative, it does not have the correct line of
>reasoning yet.

Incorrect logic and reasoning...Humans find moves this was all the time...its
called positional play.



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