Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:11:18 10/03/99
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On October 03, 1999 at 16:55:40, Mark Young wrote: >On October 03, 1999 at 15:23:15, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote: > >>There is no doubt in my mind that the best commercial programs are GM strength, >>but as Seven of Nine often says in Star Trek Voyager, "That is irrelavent". >> >>In order for a chess program to become a GM, it must play in norm qualification >>tournaments against Human GM's. That won't happen unless Fide suddenly declars >>that the programs can be invited to these events, and challenge for these title >>& norms like any human. I don't think this would be fair to the Human >>professional chess player's who have to eat and sleep, and often base their >>tournament chances against other Human player's that they have studied to play, >>long & hard. >> >>On the other hand, If a large company like Mircrosoft or Intel (or you name it), >>was sponsoring the event from the beginning, and inviting a group of chess >>programs and humans to fight for these norms and titles, then we could soon have >>plenty of computer Fide Master's, IM's & GM's. In a way, the AEGON tournament >>was the last such event of this type, but with out the Fide sanctioned status. >>So of course the question arises - How imported is Fide to us for the credence >>we give our human players & chess programs? > >I could care less what Fide does, I also do not think Fide will ever give a >program a chance to earn a GM norm. A title by Fide is not important, what is, >is the programs rating to answer the question. If a program can play GM's and >hold a rating over 2500+ after many game, that is all that is needed IMO. > >> >>Larry - the chess software addict! Actually, FIDE will allow this to happen, unless they have rescinded a decision reached several years ago. The only problem is that the 'fee' to become a computer member of FIDE was _enormous_ as FIDE thought that all the commercial programmers were wealthy, and that the non-commercial programs were sponsored by companies with deep pockets (Cray Blitz for example, or Deep Blue/IBM). They passed a resolution several years ago, but the fee was (IIRC) somewhere in the $10,000-$30,000 range... As a result, no computer has been willing to pay such a rediculous fee...
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