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Subject: Re: Computer Chess. Useful??

Author: Dan Homan

Date: 07:51:52 12/16/99

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On December 16, 1999 at 04:13:55, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On December 16, 1999 at 02:21:46, Michael Neish wrote:
>>I'm as interested in computer Chess as the next person,
>>I suppose, and it would do my motivation no harm at all
>>to know whether there are any practical applications to
>>the techniques used for Chess programming.  So, are
>>these techniques so specialised that they are useful
>>only within the game of Chess and not to any real
>>applications (or even to other games)? Does computer
>>Chess come under the category of AI anyway?  Has AI
>>research gained anything from Chess, or vice-versa?
>
>I think the "mindset" of a chess programmer can be useful to solve other
>problems. For example, counting doubled pawns is obviously only useful in chess,
>but a chess programmer can approach a new problem and think, "is there anything
>I can do that's similar to counting doubled pawns?"
>
>IMHO, a computer playing chess is obviously artifically intelligent. I think
>everybody will agree that it takes intelligence to play chess, and computers

That is like saying that it takes intelligence to solve a system of partial
differential equations therefore algorithms that can do so are
artificially intelligent.  It is all how you define intelligence.  If
intelligence is simply the ability to solve a particular type of problem,
then lots of things have intelligence (including your washing
machine).

I think intelligence is something deeper.... but I am having a hard time
defining it.  I think it has to do with general purpose problem solving
which itself requires the ability to learn and adapt to new kinds of
problems.  I think a measure of intelligence is the breadth of new (and
unexpected) problems that a machine/algorithm can learn to preform
well at. (Any specific problem that an algorithm naturally preforms well at
doesn't count - such a problem is solved by 'instinct'.) The wider
the range of problems, the smarter the machine/algorithm.
On this scale, some chess programs would be more intelligent than others -
but the least intelligent ones (no learning) might play the best chess.

 - Dan

P.S.  Please note that with such a measure of intelligence, a program
could be very knowledgable but not very intelligent if it had no ability
to learn.

>quite clearly play chess. Now, I'm not saying they're creative or clever or
>human-like, but I think they're clearly displaying some intelligence.
>
>-Tom



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