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Subject: Re: The details of a psychowar (DB team vs Kasparov in the NY Times)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:28:56 05/12/00

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On May 12, 2000 at 11:07:04, Albert Silver wrote:

>On May 12, 2000 at 06:16:13, Hans Gerber wrote:
>
>
>>>I wasn't there personally, so I can't say who attended which meetings, and I
>>>don't plan on bugging Hsu to ask for recollections about what happened.
>>>
>>>Clearly by round 3 he suggested something was wrong.  Little doubt about how
>>>to interpret the comment Albert gave you a link to.  A direct accusation...
>>
>>Two aspects: 1) the exact moment of his question and of the denial of the
>>prints, 2) the difference between events in reality and the reality of articles
>>in newspapers about "events". Let us analyse before we make our conclusions.
>>
>>You hypostated a direct connection between his _public_ question (which in
>>itself is accusation and insult in your view) and the (therefore justified)
>>_reaction_ of the DB team and IBM. Up to this moment I don't have any proof that
>>Kasparov made any (public) accusations after game two.
>>
>>The article by B. Weber allows the ref went into the public with Kasparov's
>>request. Thus the request was stamped as impolite and based on a kind of
>>confusion. But _if_ it was made in discretion and in the belief of friendly
>>terms of talking?
>
>Kasparov isn't really know for his discretion, and if it had been printed
>against his will, he would not still be making this accusation _publicly_ until
>today. Here is a link to a speech given before the students of The Humanitarian
>University, St. Petersburg just now, April 10, 2000:
>
>http://www.clubkasparov.com/serve/templates/folders/show.asp?p_docID=4954&p_docLang=EN
>
>It speaks for itself. His argument still goes: if a PC program never plays the
>move, then DB couldn't have either. BTW, make sure you get the whole link as
>many browsers cut split it after the '?'.
>
>                                      Albert Silver
>
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>
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This is _still_ utter rubbish.  Complete logs from all 6 games are public.
He says they have never been released.  The logs for the key moves are easy
to understand, even though he says they are not (I believe part of this
confusion was caused by Amir's comments about the logs).


>
>
>>At the time of this newspaper's article, the request was not
>>even known in public. So, the article documented a turning point, initiated by
>>the DB team and IBM, in person of M. Campell, the second man behind Hsu. Perhaps
>>you are right that the later official statement was given by Tan, but in this
>>article there is a clear presence of the DB team to be seen...



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