Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:47:07 03/25/01
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On March 25, 2001 at 08:20:06, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On March 25, 2001 at 06:09:54, Peter Berger wrote: > >>I was simply making a sneaky remark about the following lines : >> >>"Chessbase provides the best chess engines at a very affordable price. >>Chessbase provides the best interface for chess engines. >>Chessbase is the standard by which all others are judged." >> >>These like similar statements make me wonder if this is some kind of religion . > >right. sounds really much like scientologists. freaky fanatics. who have lost >their capability to think themselves and instead create statements like the one >above. right. > >>I own a few Chessbase programs and I like them ; I own some others , too , which >>are also fine . > >right. but i see a tendency and i do not like this tendency >because i know this development from other >parts of my life: the variety decreases, the poor mass products increase, >and instead to repair your watch you throw it away and buy another one. > >>I am not especially in favour of a situation where there is only one interface >>left so I am not too happy with a Chessbase/Tiger but this is only an opinion . > >right. but you have to see that for some people the concept of capitalism is a >holy thing and it is not allowe to critisize holy things. >for them it is one main dogma of them, and saying something against it is >a problem for them. > > >>Statements like the above keep getting repeated several times by several users >>until probably they get accepted as the simple truth . > >:-))) > >>This is like Mr Irazoquoi claiming that Chessbase programs have been leading >>everybody's list for 3 years now forgetting about CM6000, Hiarcs 7 and Tiger 12. > >do you really he is believing the lies he spreads arround ? >i cannot believe that he is so ... to believe what he says and spreads. >maybe it is his job to praise the lord of chessbase in this >way. don't forget that he is a writer for computerschach and spiele. >he is so deeply involved in all this development, that he cannot judge the >things in a balanced way IMO. > > >>Statement 1 : Best prices ? I think the Rebel 11 package or CM8000 have much >>more reasonable prices . > > >absolutely correct. > > >>Also I am not in favour of this selling of things like >>"Fritz Endgame Turbo" which every user can build for him/herself . > >right. making money out of something you get for free. this is exploit the >concept of somebody else. > >>Statement 2: Is this about the GUI ? Well , the GUI is fine . CM8000 and >>ChessPartner or Shredder are fine , too . Every interface contains a few things >>the others don't have . It's also obvious that the different companies learn >>from each other and these functions are usually in the next version of the other >>company , too , which is great for us users . > >right. > >>Statement 3 : Hmm , can't comment on this . > >:-))) > > >>pete I would personally like to see the negative remarks directed at ChessBase disappear. There are several things/places/people that I do not like, but I don't continually harp on them here (or anywhere for that matter). I fail to see how ChessBase is going to be the end of computer chess. Crafty works as an engine for the ChessBase GUI. They don't have _any_ say-so in what I do, how I do it, or when I do it. They neither encourage nor discourage my development. I am pretty sure that any commercial entity would like to see the demise of all the freeware chess engines, for the obvious reason. But rather than being able to discourage new program development, commercial entities are powerless to prevent it... just look at all the winboard/xboard engines that are available today. Most people here enjoy your posts and your tournaments. But most also get tired of the attacks on ChessBase. And all you manage to do is clog up the moderator email inbox with complaints. Please continue doing the things you do. But everytime you find yourself typing "ChessBase" ask yourself "Everybody knows that I don't like this company, so is it possible for me to simply delete the thought I was writing down and move on to something that is not negative?" It would certainly make the lives of the moderators much more simple. :)
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