Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 11:38:33 01/11/03
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On January 11, 2003 at 09:39:04, K. Burcham wrote: In 1997 i won easily in blitz from all programs. They knew nothing. Bad evaluation. Very passive play. Small search depths. Cars on the other hand advanced hardly from 1997 to 2002. The advances of cars from 1997 - 2002 is in no way comparable to the advances in all respects of computerchess 1997 to 2002. We talk about the weakest chains getting stronger by nearly 500 rating points *at least*. Let's take openingsbook. the 1997 openingsbook of deep blue was a random book with 4000 hand tuned moves. 4000 hand tuned moves is very little. When compared to todays openings books that means it will get out of book on average with -1.0 down in score, if not more. So junior - deepblue i estimate at around 20-0. 12 points from book. 1 point from middlegame. 5 points from attacking the king and mating deep blue (and it not showing any positional problem until it is too late. then when it smells it, it sees probably more than junior there despite junior searching deeper; singular extensions have that habit) and 4 points in endgame. Best regards, Vincent > > >I do not understand the comparision anyway. We do not compare a 1910 car with a >2002 car either. > >You compare deep blue. no nullmove, no good eval (for 1997 standards sufficient >though) with the formula 1 cars that we build today. > > >Best Regards, >Vincent > > >Vincent, lets use your example since you want to compare Deep Blue to the >automobile, and the formula 1 cars. >Lets go to the salt flats with a 1997 car, (more realistic time reference), that >is capable of a top speed of 2000 miles an hour. Also take a car from 2003, and >this top speed is 200 miles per hour. the 2003 car has more knowledge about the >goals wanted by the humans, get to the finish line first. the 2003 car is more >stable, rides better, better interface, looks better, etc. >i think i will put my money on the speed for now. > >kburcham
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