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Subject: Re: Will Dell Axim x5 (400 mhz 64mb sdram ) andance suport pocket fritz ?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 08:47:58 10/17/03

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On October 17, 2003 at 09:55:19, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On October 17, 2003 at 08:54:58, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On October 17, 2003 at 06:42:23, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>On October 17, 2003 at 05:34:01, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 16, 2003 at 22:45:51, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 16, 2003 at 17:31:58, Joseph Merolle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>If so what can I exspect its rating to be in a 40 in 2. Any help would be
>>>>>>greatly apriciated. Chessbase is not really to clear what it can play on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards Joseph
>>>>>
>>>>>PF2 with patch works great on Axim - as does Pocket Grandmaster and Chess
>>>>>Genius.  PF1 (the first edition) will NOT work.
>>>>>
>>>>>I played 5 games at Game 30/ PF2 vs Chess Genius 3 (Circa 1993/1994) on a Dell
>>>>>P4 1.7 Ghz Xeon - it stands at 2-1-2 in favor of PF2.
>>>>>
>>>>>SSDF:
>>>>>
>>>>>Genius 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2309   26   -25   785   61%  2229
>>>>>
>>>>>My machine is maybe 12-16x or even faster of P90.  16x=2^4.  Assume 50 points
>>>>>(low) for doubling or 4x50=200.  My estimate is that the latest Axim running
>>>>>PF2, PGM or PCG is around 2500 SSDF.  I also do NOT believe in adding 200 points
>>>>>to SSDF to get to USCF.  Who knows what the comnversion factor would be - , it
>>>>>may even be close to equal - but it's not add 200 to get USCF.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry Mike,
>>>>my guesstimate is that PF2 and Ruffian are still stronger than PCG 1.5 at
>>>>time controls >= 15 min for the game.
>>>>The chess engine only has been optimized for the Xscale.
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>
>>>I should qualify my comments - on my machine (Dell Axim) with WM 2003 and ROM 05
>>
>> >- they are close ..too close for me to call.
>>
>>You explicit mentioned SSDF so we talk about tournament time control.
>>
>>Shredder 7 UCI 450 Mhz has 2717 SSDF ElO
>>Chess Genius 6.5 450 MHz has 2476 SSDF ELO
>>
>>Shredder 7 had TBs in the search and and and ..., so maybe the difference is
>>only 200 points.
>>
>>To be close now on a Dell Axim would mean SMK did a lousy porting job with
>>PF2(updated).
>>Seems unlikely to me.
>>
>>Michael
>
>you are assuming the engine Genius 6.5 is the same as CG 1.5 --- I do not think
>it is based on problems I have given to both.

I didn't assume that. Even if Lang had a major rewrite of his program it seems
impossible that he has closed the gap.
The ability to solve many testpositions fast is fine but not most important.

Btw, I have an Axim with ROM A01 German and PF2 seems to work fine there.
@ 400MHz 16MB I get typically 20000-25000 nps in the early middlegame and
21000 nps after 30 sec in the start position.

Michael


Michael



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