Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 08:47:58 10/17/03
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On October 17, 2003 at 09:55:19, Mike Byrne wrote: >On October 17, 2003 at 08:54:58, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On October 17, 2003 at 06:42:23, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>On October 17, 2003 at 05:34:01, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On October 16, 2003 at 22:45:51, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 16, 2003 at 17:31:58, Joseph Merolle wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>If so what can I exspect its rating to be in a 40 in 2. Any help would be >>>>>>greatly apriciated. Chessbase is not really to clear what it can play on. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Regards Joseph >>>>> >>>>>PF2 with patch works great on Axim - as does Pocket Grandmaster and Chess >>>>>Genius. PF1 (the first edition) will NOT work. >>>>> >>>>>I played 5 games at Game 30/ PF2 vs Chess Genius 3 (Circa 1993/1994) on a Dell >>>>>P4 1.7 Ghz Xeon - it stands at 2-1-2 in favor of PF2. >>>>> >>>>>SSDF: >>>>> >>>>>Genius 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2309 26 -25 785 61% 2229 >>>>> >>>>>My machine is maybe 12-16x or even faster of P90. 16x=2^4. Assume 50 points >>>>>(low) for doubling or 4x50=200. My estimate is that the latest Axim running >>>>>PF2, PGM or PCG is around 2500 SSDF. I also do NOT believe in adding 200 points >>>>>to SSDF to get to USCF. Who knows what the comnversion factor would be - , it >>>>>may even be close to equal - but it's not add 200 to get USCF. >>>> >>>>Sorry Mike, >>>>my guesstimate is that PF2 and Ruffian are still stronger than PCG 1.5 at >>>>time controls >= 15 min for the game. >>>>The chess engine only has been optimized for the Xscale. >>>> >>>>Michael >>> >>>I should qualify my comments - on my machine (Dell Axim) with WM 2003 and ROM 05 >> >> >- they are close ..too close for me to call. >> >>You explicit mentioned SSDF so we talk about tournament time control. >> >>Shredder 7 UCI 450 Mhz has 2717 SSDF ElO >>Chess Genius 6.5 450 MHz has 2476 SSDF ELO >> >>Shredder 7 had TBs in the search and and and ..., so maybe the difference is >>only 200 points. >> >>To be close now on a Dell Axim would mean SMK did a lousy porting job with >>PF2(updated). >>Seems unlikely to me. >> >>Michael > >you are assuming the engine Genius 6.5 is the same as CG 1.5 --- I do not think >it is based on problems I have given to both. I didn't assume that. Even if Lang had a major rewrite of his program it seems impossible that he has closed the gap. The ability to solve many testpositions fast is fine but not most important. Btw, I have an Axim with ROM A01 German and PF2 seems to work fine there. @ 400MHz 16MB I get typically 20000-25000 nps in the early middlegame and 21000 nps after 30 sec in the start position. Michael Michael
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