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Subject: Re: DB vs Kasparov - Who won?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:46:20 01/20/00

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On January 20, 2000 at 18:21:43, Mike CastaƱuela wrote:
[snip]
>Prof. Hyatt:
>I wonder, after many messages readed related to this topic,
>why so much pleitesy of you towards DB?
>
>1. Kasparov has proved to be the best player, BUT definitely not the best
>   in playing against machines, as is recognized by himself
>  (see comments by him about Frankfurt Tournament, about Fritz, Genius, etc.)
>>
With this assertion, I agree.  He's still among the top 3 or 4 in the world,
though, even against computers.
<<

>2. Kasparov also say (and obvioulsy he knows because he played both):
>   "DB is dumber comparing to micro's programs" or something similar (I think
>   he refers to chess knowledge, not calculus capacity).
>>
I guess that Hiarcs would really wax his butt then.  Sounds like sour grapes to
me.
<<

>3. The merit (part) of DB against humans was no existence of history games to
>   study by part of its oponents (e.g. "black box", in oppsoite to micro
>   programs situation).
>>
That was a clear advantage.  If I were on the DB team, I would have kept that
information back as well.  When playing against the strongest player in the
world, you need every advantage at your disposal.  I would also have analyzed
every move Kasparov ever played at one hour time control, and stored it in a
database, so as to know the best possible response.
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>4. If the TPR of DB was grossly ~2550-2600, and Rebel with ~2480 then there
>   isn't huge difference, and also Rebel may not be the best representative.
>>
And if the TPR of DB was 12, then Rebel is much better.  But it's not.  You
can't count old DT matches in with DB.  It does not make any sense at all.  And
look at the TPR of the final incarnation of DB.  I'd say it's a tad over that
range.
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>I know that DB is better, but not for so much, IMHO.
>>
We may never find out the answer to that question.  It's certainly the most
interesting thing that ever happened to the game of chess.  Here it is, three
years later and there are dozens of posts on it every month still.  Ever see a
Linares or Wijk aan Zee get rehashed hundreds of times for week after week,
month after month, year after year with people never tiring of it?
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