Author: Chris Carson
Date: 17:21:53 01/23/00
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On January 23, 2000 at 17:15:27, blass uri wrote: >On January 23, 2000 at 16:58:28, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 23, 2000 at 14:25:53, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>Date Event Opp Program PS USCF >>>Nov-88 19ACM Challenger DT-0.02 0.5 >>>Nov-88 19ACM SunPhoen DT-0.02 1 >>>Nov-88 19ACM Hitech DT-0.02 1 >>>Nov-88 19ACM Mephisto DT-0.02 1 micro >>>Nov-89 20ACM SunPhoen DT 1 2508 >>>Nov-89 20ACM Bp DT 1 2508 >>>Nov-89 20ACM Hitech DT 1 2508 >>>Nov-89 20ACM Rebel 89 DT 1 2508 micro >>>Nov-89 20ACM Mephisto DT 0 2508 micro >>>Nov-90 21ACM Bebe DT/88 1 2586 >>>Nov-90 21ACM Belle DT/88 1 2586 >>>Nov-90 21ACM Mephisto DT/88 1 2586 micro >>>Nov-90 21ACM Hitech DT/88 0 2586 >>>Nov-90 21ACM Zarkov DT/88 1 2586 micro >>>Nov-91 22ACM Zarkov DT-II 1 micro >>>Nov-91 22ACM Mchess DT-II 1 micro >>>Nov-91 22ACM Hitech DT-II 1 >>>Nov-91 22ACM CrayBlitz DT-II 1 >>>Nov-91 22ACM Mephisto DT-II 1 micro >>>Jun-94 24ACM Zarkov DB prot 1 >>>Jun-94 24ACM Mchess DB prot 0 micro >>>Jun-94 24ACM Wchess DB prot 1 micro >>>Jun-94 24ACM Star Soc DB prot 1 >>>Jun-94 24ACM Mchess DB prot 1 micro >>>May-95 8thWCCC Star Soc DB prot 1 >>>May-95 8thWCCC Hitech DB prot 1 >>>May-95 8thWCCC Cheiron DB prot 1 >>>May-95 8thWCCC Wchess DB prot 0.5 micro >>>May-95 8thWCCC Fritz 3 DB prot 0 micro >>> >>>Source: M. Newborn, (1997), "Kasparov versus Deep Blue", >>>Springer-Verlag, New York, New York >>> >>>Notes: >>> >>>DT/DB prototype scored 9.5/13 on the micros between Nov 1988 >>>and May 1995. Not very impressive IMHO, considering the huge >>>hardware advantage. :) >>> >>>IMHO, the micros had the more impressive performance, especially >>>in 1995 when Fritz won the tournament! :) >>> >>>Best Regards, >>>Chris Carson >> >> >>Note that the game vs Mchess was not played. It was a forfeit without a >>move being played, due to a big thunderstorm knocking out all the telephone >>equipment into the Watson lab. >> >>one loss is _not_ bad... and that is all they had in legitimate games... > >They had 2 losses in legitimate games against micros >Fritz and mephisto. > >I see that they had also one loss against Hitech in november 90 and I believe >that this hitech is weaker than the micros of today. > >They had 2 draws against a micro(wchess) and against challanger in november 88 > >Uri Quite right. The data against humans and computers show that DT and DB (prototype) were inferior than commercial/hw today (DT was USCF ratings not FIDE and I notice that a lot of the games quoted for the DT USCF ratings are G/30, G/60 and G/90 and DT did very poorly against humans at those time controls compared to todays commercials/hw). Today's commercials have TPR's consistently above DB's and very close to DBII (perhaps better on PIII-800+ multi-processors, time will tell when games are played). But, my guess is we will hear some blah, blah, blah, wait for some mythical chip, don't believe the data, watch me pull a rabbit out out of my hat - statements. :) Best Regards, Chris Carson
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