Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 00:22:28 01/28/00
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On January 27, 2000 at 22:17:53, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 27, 2000 at 21:32:07, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On January 27, 2000 at 21:18:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>[snip] >>{regarding DB support}: >>>This is an unforgivable sin here or anywhere else. I think it quite funny >>>that (a) folks wonder why Hsu doesn't post here; and then (b) attack anything >>>they do as inferior. >>> >>>I have said this before... They are far better than anybody (other than maybe >>>myself and a couple of others) give them credit for. Just continue to watch >>>the analysis of the DB logs. We suddenly discover that (a) they are searching >>>a lot deeper than some kept thinking; (b) their branching factor is actually >>>not much worse than the rest of us; (c) etc. >>> >>>Best to wait and watch. Lots more will come out over time... But the >>>naysayers will _never_ be silenced... >> >>I find it very puzzling the huge amount of absolute hostility towards Deep Blue >>[and HERE of all places]! >> >>The last match was 1997. That's about 3 years ago, and we still talk about it >>almost daily. Nothing comes even remotely close to being as interesting as the >>Deep Blue match. Nothing has ever generated the publicity for computer chess >>like the Deep Blue match. >> >>And yet people are clearly *angry* at the Deep Blue team. Is there some sort of >>history that would explain it? I keep feeling that I have walked late into a >>movie and everyone is panning the hero, who seems like such a nice guy. >> >>Most amazing of all are the sort of persons who are irate. Almost always >>incredibly intelligent computer science types. >> >>*boggle* > >It's human nature. Remember that the last DB news wasn't three years ago but 3 >weeks ago. Until this news, there had been at least two hopes, however remote: > >- DB would somehow and somewhen be taken off the shelf and play another titanic >match against Kasparov (or anyone) > >- DB would be made available to all as a PC card. > >DB was by far the strongest chess playing machine ever built. Nothing came >remotely close (except for its own predecessors). And now we are told clearly >that neither will ever happen and Hsu has gone off to greener pastures. Nothing >wrong with this, EXCEPT that Hyatt has made it clear that it is his belief that >NO ONE will reach that level for another decade because all of its secrets are >locked away. Everyone, including the programmers, feels deeply cheated. NO DB >and much worse: no way to build on DB so to get there you have to start from >scratch. This is simply terrible. It wasn't destroyed, the designers didn't die, >and the blueprints still exist; they are just locked away, and since Hsu has the >key, he is the butt of the anger. So the reaction is understandable: rather than >accept this, many would prefer to tear it down so the pain is lessened. If you >can believe it will only take 5 years to get there, it seems less tragic. That's >what I believe this is all about. Maybe the fact that they don't play is part of the game? Ed > Albert Silver
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