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Subject: Re: 6 game 40/2 COMP WINS just as i predicted!

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:05:16 01/11/01

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On January 11, 2001 at 16:00:40, Drazen Marovic wrote:

>On January 11, 2001 at 15:46:54, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 11, 2001 at 15:41:31, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>
>>>On January 11, 2001 at 13:39:03, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 11, 2001 at 11:43:10, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   The sad thing is, if rebel had lost by a measly half point countless here
>>>>>would still try to deny comps gm strength.
>>>>
>>>>There is not enough evidence to confirm or deny the assertion either way.
>>>>
>>>>The 1/2 point swing in the other direction (for the comp) is no different.  But
>>>>in any case, there are certainly not enough games to make a logical statement.
>>>>Only an emotional one.
>>>
>>>False.  I have something you don't. The experience of grandmaster play.  A life
>>>time of the study of the game.  Non GM's do not beat experienced GM's in 6 game
>>>matches Especially by what should have been by 2 full points, if not for the
>>>graciousness of Schroeder in giving the last round draw.  Sure it could have
>>>been luck, an amazing flip of the coin.  If you believe in that unlikelyhood.
>>>There's nothing to talk about
>>
>>I'm afraid that you simply have a poor grasp of mathematics.
>>
>>And weaker players do beat stronger players by preparation.  I'll leave it as an
>>excercise for you to find examples.
>>
>>Consider this you HAVE NO, NONE,NOT a CLUE what GM STRENGTH IS.   By your faulty reasoning and not understanding what GM strength is.  You disqaulify countless GM's from ever being GM strength.  Pillsbury, Sultan Khan,  And a good number of current day GM's as well.

I think it's time for you to get a grip.

I know what GM strength is.  I have played against one, in fact.  But I am
talking about mathematical demonstration (the kind that I prefer) rather than
emotional demonstration (the kind that you are displaying).

Not that one sort of choice is superior to the other.

You are also wrong in assuming that I have assumed the NULL hypothesis.  I have
chosen neither side of the argument.  IOW: I am not saying that computers are
NOT of GM strength.  I am not saying that they are.  What I am saying
(precisely) is that GM strength has not been mathematically demonstrated for
computers.  Furthermore, I also believe that eventually GM's will learn how to
play these things and do a heck of a lot better against them.  But I also
believe that eventually the machines will grind GM's into powder.  It is
inevitable because of Moore's law.




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