Author: Slater Wold
Date: 06:15:01 05/27/02
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On May 27, 2002 at 08:49:48, Aaron Gordon wrote: >Thats about a heap of crap. Plain and simple. 139fps for the Athlon 1.73? It is >extremely obvious you did absolutely nothing increase memory performance on that >box. Did you even load the via 4in1 drivers? My "junk" Thunderbird 800 @ 850 >pulled more fps than that in Q3 using normal SDRAM and a Geforce2 MX. I think it >even pulled more fps than that with an old Voodoo3 even. Also, why not compare >crafty using my 18.14 AMD & P4 binaries? Both are fully profiled for the cpu in >question. > >Here are some older screenshots I took way back when I had my Tbird and Abit >KT7a.. all tests were done in low detail with sound off to test only >bus/memory/cpu. > >Thunderbird 1GHz @ 600MHz, 100MHz bus, 100MHz SDRAM, Geforce2 Ultra >1260 frames in 5.6 seconds - 241.5 fps >ftp://speedycpu.dyndns.org/pub/overclockstuff/pics/fasttbird.jpg > >Thunderbird 1GHz @ 883MHz, 160MHz bus, 160MHz SDRAM, Geforce2 Ultra >1260 frames in 3.2 seconds - 390.5 fps >ftp://speedycpu.dyndns.org/pub/overclockstuff/pics/fasttbird3.jpg > >Thunderbird 1GHz @ 1653MHz, 157MHz bus, 157MHz SDRAM, Geforce2 Ultra >1260 frames in 2.6 seconds - 480.0 fps >ftp://speedycpu.dyndns.org/pub/overclockstuff/pics/fasttbird4.jpg > >Remember, this is my OLD box with SDRAM, 1GHz AMD Thunderbird and a Geforce2 >Ultra. My box pulls over 600 fps easily with those settings and around 400 fps >with the standard 800x600 32bit settings with my Geforce3 (@ 270/600). In crafty >my box at 1.86Ghz gets about 1.2 Million nps with my CraftyK7 18.11. That >P4-2.53 has a LONG way to go. Also, if you're having ANY doubts about any of >this come up to Grand Prairie and test it for yourself. Like I said before.. >You're always welcome to come up & lan, benchmark, etc. I still have that Tbird >1GHz, Abit KT7a (SDR) w/ Gf2 Ultra.. currently running air-cooled at 1.5ghz at >the moment. You're welcome to play around on that machine as well. > >It's a shame I don't have the money to upgrade this box I have now.. The box I >could build has the potential of being %30-50 (perhaps more) faster than what I >have now. Specs: AMD Thoroughbred @ 2.2Ghz with cascaded freon compressors, >single 512mb PC3200 DIMM @ 230fsb (460DDR, also with two 172 watt liquid cooled >peltiers) on an Epox 8K3A with the Epoxs' chipset cooled also with an 86watt >peltier. A SUMA (3.3ns ram) Geforce4 Ti4200 oced to 350MHz core / 750MHz memory >(again, cooled with two 172 watt peltiers). All the peltiers will be cooled with >copper maze blocks from dangerden, use arctic silver 3 compound and run off an >800GPH pump with 1 inch tubing splitting off into 3/8" tubes for the individual >waterblocks. A dangerden Supercube copper radiator to dump the heat from the >water. The power supply that will be used to power the peltiers is custom built >(will provide pictures if requested, it's an interesting heap) DC psu (variable >from 1 to 50V) from some friends at Devry. As crazy as this may sound it is >completely doable and will fit inside a full tower case minus freon compressors >which will be in a seprate section below the tower (similar to Kryotech's setup >but not as pretty). Yes, it will require massive ammounts of power but it will >be ridiculously fast (and not to mention cost LESS than $3,000). > >It appears that the crude benchmarking you have done only mentally justifies the >$3,000+ you spent on that box. You are only kidding yourself... Well, I thought you'd know me a little better than that Aaron, but whatever. The video card I used was a Creative Labs GeForce 1. I have a better video card, however XP didn't want anything to do with it. So I was forced to use the GF1. I have screenshots if you'd like them. Hell, I'd be more than welcome to let you in my house to see on this screen those results yourself. And this is of course, with all the latests drives I could find. At least, I know they were the same exact version. And once again, please don't come at me with some Mad Scientist overclocking stuff, I told you that in an e-mail originally. Probably 3% of all the PC users in the world overclock their computers, and of that 3% I'd say about 0.1% of those take it to your extremes. A moderatly overclocked box is fine, but something that takes dry ice to run? Come on man, get real. I welcome ANYONE who would like to, to send me an AMD optimized Crafty 18.15 EXE. And I will tell you, I spent SEVERAL hours tonite trying to get my since 1.73Ghz to hit over 940k nps, and it won't do it. Plain and simple. And the P4 was getting 965k nps with the EXE off Hyatt's FTP. Like I said, if you think you've got one, send it to me. I seriously doubt you have. Like I said, I've sat here for over 12 hours playing on both these machines, and I know without a doubt in my mind, this P4 is faster than a single AMD 1.73Ghz. In some applications, by a lot. In others, only by a slim %. But I haven't run a program vs program where the P4 hasn't won yet. Sorry if that upsets you, no reason to get rude.
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