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Subject: I understand it now. Thanks, Dr. Hyatt and Frank. (NT)

Author: Eran

Date: 00:12:02 08/16/02

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On August 15, 2002 at 20:14:53, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On August 15, 2002 at 19:36:24, Eran wrote:
>
>>On August 15, 2002 at 15:50:59, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>
>>>under the following address can be found interviews with:
>>>
>>>01. Tim Mann
>>>02. Robert Hyatt
>>>03. Martin Blume
>>>
>>>Main theme are engine protocols!
>>>
>>>The interview with Martin is so far only in German available, the interviews
>>>with Robert and Tim also in English.
>>>
>>>With the permission by ChessBits!
>>>(German computer chess magazine, interviews are from issue 18)
>>>
>>>Have a nice day ... I hope the big group of Winboarders found interesting
>>>information.
>>>
>>>http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/interviews/interviews.htm
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>
>>I am surprised to hear that Dr. Hyatt does not like UCI protocol. I hope he does
>>not think that UCI protocol is a piece of trash, does he?
>>
>>Eran
>
>Hi,
>
>not surprised for me ... I know the discuss here about the new UCI protocol for
>many months. Normaly I have the same opinion compare to Robert but UCI is free
>and have much interesting options. More easy for users of chess software compare
>to WinBoard, not for me :-). WinBoard is the standard engine protocol and if I
>saw a chance to make a bigger publicity for amateur chess I used it. With UCI
>have more users interest to play with amateur chess programs, users from the
>group which used in the past only commercial chess programs. Good for amateur
>chess and commercial chess.
>
>On the other hand, you can see that it's possible to make a good WinBoard
>Support (Arena's engine configuration for a good example).
>
>We will look in the future of computer chess engine protocols. A long time an
>interesting subject for all users of chess software.
>
>All 3 opinions in the interviews are very interesting. I like the comments of
>Robert, Tim and Martin!
>
>But clear is ...
>We have 160 free programs, enough material for all engine lovers. If we find a
>way to used the engine protocols under one GUI ... all is fine and the best of
>all is that users of commercial chess programs have more interest on amateur
>UCI engines (many commercial GUIs have also a good WinBoard support, this is
>clear).
>
>Chessmaster, ChessPartner, Chess-Assistant, Chess Academy for examples. In my
>opinion have all of this GUIs a clearly better support of the WinBoard standard
>engines protocol compare to ChessBase GUIs. I like also ChessBase GUIs very much
>(please not false understand).
>
>Clear is also ...
>We have enough UCI engines, to many UCI engines for interesting users because
>users can not play with all of the available programs.
>
>But commercial chess is in the next years in my opinion only a little group of
>engines. Maybe in 2 years 50x more amateur engines are available and I am sure
>in the near future also engines with a playing strength compare to top programs
>at this time.
>
>With other words:
>We have now UCI so we can used it, it's free and if persons have fun on UCI is
>this also OK for me :-)
>
>Interesting is the comment by Bob ...
>"I simply don't like UCI"
>
>Give me one reason why a programmer must create an UCI engine if he have a
>perfect working WinBoard engines and users of commercial ChessBase software have
>a ChessBase native engine.
>
>Today:
>- WinBoard
>- UCI
>- ChessBase protocol
>
>Tomorrow:
>- Pumuckel
>- Hotzenplotz
>- the Pumuckel / Hotzenplotz combination
>
>I hope that not more protocols comes in the near future. UCI is good for
>learning from the situation ... we have enough protocols. A perfect running
>protocol is better as 3 or 6 or 12 different protocols.
>
>Best
>Frank



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