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Subject: Re: Correspondence chess

Author: Angelo Ciavarella

Date: 12:18:05 05/20/03

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On May 20, 2003 at 14:04:48, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 20, 2003 at 11:40:25, Angelo Ciavarella wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2003 at 05:14:08, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On May 20, 2003 at 03:14:21, Angelo Ciavarella wrote:
>>>
>>>>The link below says that the correspondence chess champion can calculate better
>>>>than any computer.
>>>>
>>>>www.uschess.org/cc/alexsept02.html
>>>
>>>I do not see that claim.
>>>
>>>By definition computer is faster and can calculate better than any human if
>>>humans only write the right program.
>>>
>>>The only reason that a team of computer and human can do better than a computer
>>>is that programmers failed to write the right program.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>If you read the statement half way down the page by two-time U.S.Correspondence
>>Champion Stephen Jones, he explains why he can beat a computer in correspondence
>>analysis.
>
>I can only say nonsense about the following sentence:
>"You look 10 to 12 moves ahead. The computer's evaluation of the position will
>be based only on four to six moves ahead."
>
>The writer proves that he does not know much about computers becuase my shredder
>can get often 20 plies in some hours and 20 plies are clearly more than 4-6
>moves ahead.
>
>He also does not claim that he without computer can beat the computer.
>If the claim is that a team of computer+human can be better than a computer then
>I agree with it but I also believe that in lot of cases it is not the case(for
>example if the human only use the computer to check the analysis for tactical
>mistakes)
>
>I also believe that there are full games when a good correspondence player does
>not need to change the moves of the computer because they are simply the best
>moves.
>
>Uri
Steven Busemann,a cc grandmaster, says computers are not much use to a strong cc
player.Go to http://cl-www.dfki.uni-sb.de/~busemann/computers.html for a full
explanation.

Angelo



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