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Subject: Re: Amazing human...? = This whole thread is silly

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:05:35 08/24/99

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On August 24, 1999 at 04:02:10, rich wrote:

>First of all, how can you know for sure this person is a cheater?
>Innocent until found guilty, anyone ?!?

If you had read _my_ post, you would have noticed that I did look at the
games carefully, and ran them thru my 'computer screening' methodology.  And
that I reported this person to the FICS admins.

He was _definitely_ cheating.




>Second, I can't find any evidence in any of the posts in this thread.
>Third, maybe all of you just can't realize that some unrated players
>are very good chessplayers.I have myself beaten a GM once(I'm 1761 club-rating)
>and from time to time I win CM 6000  in long games(I'm a CM connaisseur).
>Furthermore a friend of mine ( unrated, never participates in tournament of any
>kind)regularly whoops my bottom at the chessboard.Every time I play him I
>FEEL I am getting slowly, positionally grinded down by a 2400 player.

Beating a GM one game out of how many?  That is a _lot_ easier than beating
Crafty 3 games in a row, something that I have _never_ seen any GM player do.



>Actually it feels like playing Karpov or Petrosjan.Oh and by the way did I
>mention that he(my friend) has played my CM 6000 with a record of 13 wins,
>1 draw and 1 loss?
>


it is easy to do this in uncontrolled conditions.  Watching the analysis
window.  Taking back moves.  Slow computer.  etc...  He should try dropping
over to ICC and demonstrating his skill against some of the very strong
programs there where he has to play like he would in a real game.  I'd bet
he has _zero_ chances of beating _any_ program 13 times.  Unless he plays a
million games or two.




> So that's that.Thinking somebody is a cheater is not enough.
>Hard evidence is required, IMHO


I agree.  But it is not hard to figure out if you go over the games with a
careful eye and use a program to check for blunders (or the lack thereof).



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