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Subject: Re: Moderation: Junior ahead of Crafty in ICC!

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 14:03:59 11/01/99

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On November 01, 1999 at 13:26:54, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On November 01, 1999 at 12:26:46, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 1999 at 01:02:38, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>What an arrogant tone. The man just reported data and I don't see the data
>>>itself denied. It's clearly against the charter of CCC. You should be an
>>>example instead of humiliating people.
>>
>>Exactly what part of the charter is being violated here?
>>
>>bruce
>
>Never mind.
>
>Sigh.
>
>Ed

No, really.  Here is the whole post:

    Sorry, but your "troll" is wrong.  Crafty and Ban won't play
    again.  Crafty's rating dropped because I broke a couple of
    serious things in the eval last weekend, one being the 'bad
    trade' code.  I have not felt like fooling with it to fix it,
    so its rating has continued to drop, steadily.  And will
    likely continue to do so until way late tonight or tomorrow
    some time when I fix what is wrong.

There is nothing wrong with the above paragraph, other than the use of the word
"troll", which I will cover after the next paragraph.

    If you'd stop trolling, and do your homework, Crafty has been
    at 3100-3200 for several weeks, during which "ban" was playing
    it regularly.  Had no harmful effect on its rating whatsoever.
    Until I managed to break it myself.  Which I do from time to
    time...

Here is some stuff:

1) He points out that the guy has posted trolls, which is a not terribly nice
conclusion.  I think that a reasonable person could argue that it is an accurate
conclusion.

2) He tells the guy to do his homework, which is a not nice thing to say.

I would have a hard time labelling either of these comments abuse or personal
attack.   Bob is obviously not pleased and delighted, but I don't think that
means that he is violating the charter.  There's nothing that leaps out and says
to me, "That is terribly awful, it must go."

I've only seen Bob's antagonist post perhaps three things in the past week, and
they are all negative comments about Crafty's behavior on ICC, with little
substance or background, and only a first name for the complainant.  And here is
another base post on the same topic.  I think Bob deserves some latitude in his
response.

    Now back to normal fishing mode...

I don't know what the preceding sentence means, but I doubt it is the source of
your complaint.

I invite you to continue this discussion if you wish, if the alternative is for
you to walk away with the opinion that I can't see the obvious.

bruce



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