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Subject: Re: Better poll question on DB

Author: Don Gaetke

Date: 06:20:34 04/23/98

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On April 23, 1998 at 08:13:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 22, 1998 at 23:56:17, Don Gaetke wrote:
>
>>
>>On April 22, 1998 at 22:10:34, Joe McCarron wrote:
>>
>>>I wonder what computer and software will be the first Chess World
>>>Champion.  Does anyone want to venture a guess when that will be?
>>>Evidently IBM has no interest in trying to attain the title for deep
>>>blue.
>>>
>>>in response to your post If we had better data on how well micros do
>>>against GM's, then the answer to the current poll question would provide
>>>the answer to your poll question.
>>>
>>>It is beyond my unserstandign why we don't have better information on
>>>how well these computers do against GM's.  I mean we all know IBM was
>>>afraid to play Deep blue against GM's more regularly but these other
>>>software programs would seem to jump at the chance to butt heads with
>>>GM's.  What is the hold up?
>>
>>In DBll's case as with the previous programs DB,DTll, and DT, there has
>>always been a strong need to keep things "hush, hush", in order to have
>>the greatest chance to prove the point that IBM had something unique
>>among computers.  It was not advantageous to disclose any performance
>>than was absolutely neccessary.
>>
>>It may yet be that the micro's will threaten the esteem of IBM's  not so
>> minor accomplishment.  After all if a PC can beat any top 5 player in
>>the world in a real match, then it takes away from IBM's SuperComputing
>>achievement in the eyes of the general public.
>>
>>Don
>>
>>P.S. CCC is such a breath of fresh air.  :-)
>
>
>
>A couple of points:  (1) Until the "IBM" days, information about the
>internals was readily available.  A chapter of a book here, a journal
>article there...  chiptest/deep thought/deep thought 2 and so forth were
>well written-up.  (2) today, there's little chance of a micro beating a
>top-5 GM in a match.  It is unlikely in a single game, unless the match
>is long enough (and I'm *not* talking about blitz games, there they have
>a chance)..

Actually, I was referring to the "performance" on the board.
Information on DeepeBlue2 as a chess player has been scant, which is
consistant with the overall history of the project.

Average GM's are already threatened today at tournament level, in 6
months to a year the top 5 will be as well thanks to some serious speed
increases just over the horizon.

Don



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