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Subject: Re: SSDF rating list soon history?

Author: Paul Petersson

Date: 19:46:29 05/04/98

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On May 04, 1998 at 18:43:54, Detlef Pordzik wrote:

>On May 04, 1998 at 08:12:23, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>From different SSDF posts I get the feeling, that probably SSDF will
>>stop their ratinglist service soon! And persons like Ossi Weiner and Ed
>>Schröder are speeding up this by their childish attacks against SSDF!
>>Additionally also some SSDF person have lost their computer chess
>>interest (I am myself as interested as 15 years ago!).
>>Let's hope that SSDF still manages at least two additional years! And
>>they need our all support...
>
>As I've allways took side for the anonymus testin' people within the
>SSDF - I now take the chance to comment this astonishing reaction from
>my point of     view :
>
>if it ain't possible to accept a done mistake, such as in case of the
>very unlucky acceptance of the CB hardware, and to correct this mistake

What CB hardware??? We haven´t accepted any hardware from CB. If you
refer to the 64 MB requirement, then I can only say that it was
inevitable. All new chessprograms that run under Win95 need more than 32
MB. Otherwise they get to small hashtanbles. For example: Shredder 2
gets 12 MB hash on a 32 MB machine, but Genius 5 gets 31 MB. On a
P200MMX Shredder quickly runs out of hashspace on a 32 MB machine. Would
that have been fair!? Furthermore, Fritz 5 was not the first program to
run on a 64 MB machine. That honour goes to Nimzo 98.

The CB autoplayer was a compromise. It was the only way that we could
get a great number of games in a short period of time. In the next
SSDF-list Fritz 5 will have played over 400 games. If we were to play
that many games manually, we couldn´t have put Fritz 5 on the list
before Fritz 6 was out... The fact that we accepted the secret
autoplayer for Fritz 5 doesn´t mean that it will be accepted for Fritz
6.

>by replacing the results by ones, done/ made new - as usually - not to
>speak about an apologize towards whomever......
>
>but instead  - and here I speak about the responsibles within the SSDF -
>react
>like Mimoses in the rain towards any critiques....

The SSDF can take criticism from anyone but it is *only* responsible
towards its members. *Only* members decides.

And, as long as the members of the SSDF wants the list, it will continue
to be made.

Paul

>
>well - then they just gotta go - and put down this buisness.
>The sun will remain shinin' for everybody, the next day - that's for
>sure, so
>noone should overestimate himself.
>
>And for me it seems - very astonishing - to remain as polite as possible
>- to
>brand Ed Schröder's reaction as " childish behaviour ".
>This man did nothin' else but tryin' to protect his product against,
>what he
>suggests as unfair + unclear competition - and this, for my opinion,
>absolutely balanced + sound in taste + articulation -
>so, what the heck ??
>
>ELVIS



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