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Subject: Re: Kasparov Says Kramnick is Wrong That Fritz7 is Stronger then Deepblue

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:51:14 04/12/02

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On April 12, 2002 at 01:22:00, David Dory wrote:

>On April 12, 2002 at 00:38:00, Dana Turnmire wrote:
>
>>Wouldn't a very fast stupid program be at a disadvantage to a much newer and
>>smarter one?  From what I have read Deep Blue wasn't that sophisticated when it
>>came to forward pruning and general chess knowledge.
>
>Yeah, you're right, it _would_. But you read it wrong. GM Joel Benjamin wasn't
>giving DB team advice for no good reason! That's why DB caught on so well with
>everyone. It wasn't just fast, it was incredibly fast, and the algorithms and
>coding weren't just good, they were world class. **

How can you know it when the thing never played on equal hardware against other
programs?

I believe that the algorithms of it were not world class and it was better than
computers of that time thanks to better hardware inspite of inferior software.


>
>I particularly like the part where Kramnik says Fritz gives better moves then
>Deep Blue did, WHEN KRAMNIK IS PLAYING Fritz7 ON A 600MHZ LAPTOP!!! <lol>

Fritz can give better moves than Deeper blue gave and I believe that the kh1
instead of Kf1 in game 2 is an example for this.

I agree that kramnik is going to win the match but he has the advantage that
kasparov had not(knowing the opponent).

>
>What a comic our champ Kramnik has turned out to be! If he got hired by an
>abacus company, he'd soon be reported the BRAND NEW AND IMPROVED abacus was
>outperforming the latest from CRAY!!
>
>Like G.K. said, it's hype. It's a bunch of bullshit, but I admit I like it - it
>stirs up interest and money for the match. Go Fritz, go V.K.!! Can't wait!!

I agree that there is a hype here but the hype is not in saying that Fritz is
better than Deeper blue but in implying that Fritz has good chances against
kramnik when kramnik gets the program.

I think that every result that is not convincing win for kramnik is a surprise
under these conditions.

Uri



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