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Subject: Re: Hyper-Threading Technology from Intel-to Hype or Not to Hype?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:21:32 03/05/03

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On March 04, 2003 at 22:47:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 04, 2003 at 17:39:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On March 04, 2003 at 16:32:33, Jay-R Delacruz wrote:
>>
>>>Do the deep versions of Fritz, Junior and Shredder support hyper-thread? Can
>>>someone please tell me before upgrading my PC to try the deep versions?
>>
>>I just read email from Frans Morsch. DeepFritz7 gets 5-10% speedup by
>>hyperthreading.
>>
>>Shredder gets more speedup in nodes a second than that, but it gets no speedup
>>from it as it gets SMP already a far smaller speedup (1.5 or so), so it is
>>smarter to turn SMT/HT off for it. perhaps shredder8 will fix this.
>>
>>For diep it speeds me up about 11% in NPS but i cannot garantuee that at a 4
>>processor it will give a positive speedup.
>>
>>When running 2 processes at a P4 at 3.06ghz it will give for sure some speedup
>>because it goes from 100k nps to 120k nps. Nearly 20% speedup it gets with it
>>(18.6 or something) which gives a positive speedup also in depth.
>>
>>For deepjunior we know that it already works bad at 8 processor Xeon 1.6Ghz
>>versus 4 processor Xeon 1.9Ghz, so i *assume* for now that SMT/HT will not give
>>it much benefit for it at all, but perhaps Amir or Shay wants to give a
>>statement regarding this themselves.
>>
>>We talk of course about the SMT/HT from Xeon processors up to 2.8Ghz now for
>>those which have it enabled. For the P4 3.06Ghz and also Xeons of that and above
>>things are a different matter.
>
>You keep saying that.  It continues to be _wrong_.  The 2.8 xeon has the
>_exact_ same cpu core (and SMT) that the 3.06 xeon and PIV has.  And when I
>say _exactly_ I mean _exactly_.  This is _directly_ from Intel... for the
>record.

try some better source instead of the marketing department try some hardware
experts. for example at: http://www.realworldtech.com/index.cfm

>
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Vincent



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