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Subject: Re: Knee jerk reaction!

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 12:56:45 09/10/04

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On September 09, 2004 at 10:50:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 08, 2004 at 19:12:56, Matthew White wrote:
>
>>On September 03, 2004 at 15:07:17, Graham Banks wrote:
>>
>>>On September 03, 2004 at 13:17:51, robert flesher wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you are going to waste your precious time and everyone else here then  please
>>>>indicate that you have given unfair advantages to certain engines.
>>>
>>>
>>>I think people should read the setup details and maybe look through the whole
>>>range of games before going off half cocked!
>>>All engines are using the Fritz powerbook tournament settings. There is the odd
>>>strange opening due to the maximum variety setting used, but I think you'll find
>>>that this has equally affected all engines and that no particular engine has
>>>been disadvantaged.
>>>For the final of the tournament I intend to optimise the powerbook settings, so
>>>this should eliminate any unusual openings.
>>>Graham.
>>
>>Would it be a more equitable test to have each pair of opponents play both sides
>>of each oddball opening?
>
>
>No...

OK, I try to find an example to show you what you are stating. Again Bob is 100%
correct.

Now as you know the F1 cars do not use the same tyres; mainly there are 2
company making them; let's call them X and Y.
Since everybody is asked to improve as much as possible the latest improvements
involve the tyres too.

So if you state that ALL cars needs to use the same X tyres to eliminate
advantages, you are not doing that as you are favoring those who have been
working in cooperation with company X and penalizing those who have been
cooperating with company Y, so improving the cars with those tyres.

In your case it is even more unfair as the car company could make changes to
reduce/eliminate the handicap, but you are chosing a chess program which is as
it is and will suffer from that.

If you think that you know more than me in this field I give you some figures:

1) I am testing/checking computer games since 1976
2) I think I have seen/checked something like 140.000 games (about 50% played by
computers)
3) I have tested/own something like 250 chess programs/chess boards (including
experimenthal versions too).

So, I can state that Bob is correct without any doubts.

Sandro




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