Author: Harald Faber
Date: 01:49:17 04/26/99
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On April 23, 1999 at 11:33:08, Robert Ericsson wrote: >>>There seem to be two statements made out of this article: >>>1) comp-comp tournaments (for instance SSDF games) can be tweaked with >>> different/special opening books. At least that's what the comp-human >>> people argues. >> SSDF's list is not 'showing the truth' >>> >>>2) comp-human tournaments are better as they will give a true FIDE-ELO >>> where the programs have performed (good or bad) against humans in OTB >>> (over the board) tournaments. >> More 'accurate' ELO list >>> >>>But hey, wait a minute!? Why is statement 2 so much better then 1? >> >>Easy: Because comp-comp in most cases is playing without a (reasonable) plan. > >Yes, but performance rating of the comp. is very much biased by the fact >that OTB players blunder or overlook tactical sequences a lot (or even loose >on time). That is the pity. If we wuldn't do it we'd perform much better. It is disappointing how often a well played game is thrown away by only one bad move. >>That is correct, on the other hand humans do have a better positional >>understanding, especially when there is no tactics around. > >Certainly true but tactics are always lurking around ;-) I know, >95% of chess is tactics. Or what do you think why is Fritz so dangerous? ;-) Certainly not because he knows much about chess.... >>Programs have become strong opponents especially OTB. But my experience is that >>for analysis you can't leave them analyzing on their own. It still needs some >>brain for the right ideas. > >And that's certainly true! That's why I use 'watch' command in Fritz and >not cc analysis feature when looking through my own played games :-D And what do you do if you want an alternative move suggestion, based on the position? >>Allow the cc player to check his ideas with a program and he will crush the >>opponent program. > >I'm not so sure. Maybe if the cc player have an ICCF-ELO >2500 but not >otherwise. I am sure 2200-2300 is enough. >Hmm... clarification: if comp uses 40 moves in 2 hours and cc player can >think much longer it's true. With equal time I don't think so.
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