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Subject: Re: About rating list and Tiger hype

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 06:44:11 10/28/99

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On October 28, 1999 at 08:13:20, Bertil Eklund wrote:

>>A) CM wasn't tested on P90 so there is no comparison and no evidence that Tiger
>>is also best on MMX200 or K6-450 as Rebel9 was best on P90 before but wasn't on
>>MMX200. So to conclude from the P90 result that Tiger will also be best on
>>faster machines is too early and probably wrong.
>>B) I don't like all that Tiger-hype since most of the games and results are not
>>tournament games.
>>
>>Concerning TIger/K6-450 vs Prog X/P90 I think it is really nonsense to play such
>>a match, no matter if Prog X has an almost safe rating.
>>Take a class-a soccer team, let's call it team A, playing versus a team of the
>>lowest regional class (call it Z). Team A wins 10-0. Let another team out of the
>>class-a play against Z, call it team B. B wins 12-0. Would you say that team B
>>is better/stronger than team A? I would never say that until I have more results
>>and games within class-a. And you shouldn't say that too.
>
>Hallo!
>
>So your suggestion is to start all over on every new hard-ware level and maybe
>disqualify weaker programs to compare. The level of the list is another case but
>this discussion could be done later. So Tiger and other top-programs shouldn´t
>play weak programs like Fritz3 on P90 because they are to strong, and can we
>estimate this before we have played it?

Yes, I have answered this above already.

>Should you refuse to play in a tournament when your opposition was 300 points
>over or below your level?

In human games there is a difference with these ratings. But a player of the
lowest local league has no chance against ANY player of the top league, so if he
plays 2 or more opponents, you cannot say who of the opponents is better than
the others.

>All new programs have to play 3-4 meetings against P90, P200MMX and AMD450 is
>this unfair?

The result of the P90 match may falsify the whole result, except you have MUCH
more games from MMX200 and K6-450.

>Of course he isn´t sure but he knows some other results that´s not published yet
>(Not finished meetings on all three levels)
>
>Bertil SSDF

I have also seen many outstanding results for Tiger, but I can only remember
G/60. Give me (outstanding) results of tournament games on (almost) equal
hardware and I will take back all I said and claim the opposite. :-)



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