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Subject: Re: a question to Tord about detecting threats in null move

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:31:13 10/04/03

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On October 04, 2003 at 16:00:47, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On October 04, 2003 at 15:08:49, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>like playing without book, randomly making 1.h3 and claiming that this was >>ok, i found that a funny one :)
>>ok what about the game that movei beated Deep Sjeng with 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d6
>>Note that I do not claim that movei is at the level of the top programs and it
>>is going to lose most of the games against Deep Sjeng but it has chances even
>>with bad opening choice.
>Uri, you know just as well as we do that one game doesn't prove anything.

I know and I mentioned the fact that Deep sjeng is clearly better than movei.

My point is that even with weaker engine I can win in a line that is not the
popular line.

I see that you can get the line by tranposition but after 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3
the popular line is 3...g6 and not 3...c6

>So what exactly is the point of this? You've not managed to address the
>point Vincent is arguing at all.
>And worse, e4 c6 d4 d6 transposes to an opening that _is_ in Deep Sjengs
>book. Consequently, it can't be a) a bad opening b) good to throw Sjeng out
>of book.

Movei was out of book after 4.f4

Vincent claimed that 1.h3 is bad and cannot work and I do not think that 1.e4 c6
2.d4 d6 is better than it.


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