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Subject: Re: 100:1 NPS Challenge

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:20:03 12/17/03

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On December 17, 2003 at 13:09:57, Slater Wold wrote:

>On December 17, 2003 at 10:41:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 17, 2003 at 10:23:26, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>On December 17, 2003 at 10:21:58, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 17, 2003 at 09:35:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 17, 2003 at 09:05:55, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess I will be running the 100:1 NPS challenge.  Here's the info:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I will use any books.bin & bookc.bin that Bob asks me to.  The book.bin will be
>>>>>>created from enormous.pgn.
>>>>>
>>>>>My suggestion is to use book.bin, bookc.bin and books.bin from my ftp
>>>>>machine.  book.bin has no learning data so it will start off in the best
>>>>>possible way.
>>>>>
>>>>>remove position.bin before game 1.
>>>>>
>>>>>And, as I suggested previously, if, after a program leaves book, it is
>>>>>in an obviously won or lost position, the game gets aborted and the next
>>>>>one started.  There is no place for "book kills" when the goal is a time
>>>>>handicap match.
>>>>
>>>>Agreed.  The only loss Crafty has suffered in the Rebel match was a book loss.
>>>
>>>
>>>BTW, what were the results of that match?
>>
>>3.5-1.5 for crafty
>>
>>see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?336433
>>
>>Note that the match is not very interesting for me because it is an open
>>question if Crafty is better than rebel on equal hardware and in WBEC Crafty has
>>13/24 when Rebel has only 10/24
>
>There is no doubt in my mind Rebel is better than Crafty on equal hardware.  And
>I've played, oh, about 5,000 games with Rebel.

I would take that wager.  We _both_ use quad opterons.

:)

Isn't that "equal" by any reasonable definition?  :)


>
>How much better is questionable, but it's obviously not 8x.  ;)
>
>>The more interesting question is if Rebel is able to get better result than
>>Crafty in the premier division.
>>
>>Uri



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