Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 08:42:49 04/29/04
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On April 29, 2004 at 10:48:52, Helmut Conrady wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 10:32:45, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 09:02:39, Victor Zakharov wrote: >> >>>>What do you think about the 50 move rule in computer chess, Guy? Any chances to >>>>modify it for computer games? >>>> >>>>Helmut >>> >>>My opinion that rules will be fixed one day when tablebases will be more common. >> >>A 25 move rule would be more approriated indeed as the 50 move rule. >>50 moves is just too long knowing that it just causes forfeits at the internet >>online chess player. Other uses the 50 move rule doesn't really have. >> >>Shortly FIDE had extended it to 75 moves, but that was changed back soon >>afterwards to 50 moves again. >> >>I doubt they will ever change it. >> >>If they change it, it will be 25 moves sooner than 75 moves. > >IMO that would contradict the spirit of chess. Why not allowing to win a won >position? Chess is defined through the rules, if the rules say it's draw then it is draw and not a won position. If you remove the 50 move rule you will see players torturing the opponent for 900 moves in a drawish RN-NN endgame. They know it is a won position so they won't ever grant a draw, they just can't figure out how to win it. Imagine if this is an important game for the world championship, the game will never end. That is not the spirit of chess IMO, you need a rules to prevent the game from continuing forever. But the solution is simple, if you have a winning advantage then don't trade into an endgame you can't win in less than 50 moves. I for example try and avoid the KBN-K endgame because I'm not sure if I can do it in less than 50 moves. That is correct spirit of the game IMO, it wouldn't be any fun if I got a trillion chances to win that endgame, he might as well resign on the spot. -S. >Helmut
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