Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: List of participants for WCCC

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 00:54:50 05/19/04

Go up one level in this thread


On May 19, 2004 at 03:32:10, José Carlos wrote:

>On May 18, 2004 at 13:21:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>On May 18, 2004 at 13:07:26, José Carlos wrote:
>>
>>>On May 18, 2004 at 12:58:33, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 12:55:25, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 09:16:34, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 17, 2004 at 05:48:45, Richard Pijl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>There are thousands of players at Biel, only a dozen at Wijk an Zee. So what ?
>>>>>>>>When was the last time Kasparov, Polgar, Anand played in Biel ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There are also thousands of (well, at least more than a thousand) players at
>>>>>>>Wijk aan Zee.
>>>>>>>Besides the three grandmaster groups there are several other tournaments.
>>>>>>>See http://www.coruschess.com/ for more info on those (click information-general
>>>>>>>information).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In Linares there are usually about half a dozen players only. And it is usually
>>>>>>considered the most important tournament.
>>>>>
>>>>>  No it isn't. The most important tournament has always been the world champs
>>>>>where players from all over the world and all levels can participate, in zonals,
>>>>>interzonals etc. If you are strong enough you can get to play the world champion
>>>>>if you pass the previous contests.
>>>>
>>>>And you must attend in person for the world championship; you don't play over
>>>>the internet...
>>>
>>>  Yes, I'm not a program, just a person. But maybe someday someone will invent a
>>>way to connect directly my brain to a chess server so that I can run automated
>>>with a fixed protocol.
>>
>>That technology is already available, it is called PlayChess, Internet Chess
>>Club, FICS, etc. But it is not used in serious events, and surely not in world
>>championships.
>
>  You miss the point.
>  We can't "automate" a human connected to a chess server the way we can with a
>program. At ICC, I make the moves on my screen with my mouse. Nothing prevents
>me from having another computer analyzing the game, a bunch of friends analyzing
>with me in a physical board, etc.

And anything prevents you from doing the same in CCT? Analyze the game on
another computer, using other programs, have a bunch of friends analyzing with
you, and when you find a better move, overrule your program...

This is not done in CCT frequently (I hope not), because the stakes are not high
there. It is just a test tournament. But when you hold the world championship in
that format, you should expect some serious problems to arise. IIRC, FIDE held
one preliminary stage of world championship tournament online. Ask them what
happened...


>Humans _need_ to play manually. Now you want
>to waste the marvelous posibility of computers to play automated just to imitate
>us.
>  As for the rest of my post you don't answer, I guess you implicetely agree
>that many players is better than a few, which BTW was the main reason of my
>post.
>
>  José C.



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.