Author: Pete Galati
Date: 15:35:05 11/22/99
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On November 22, 1999 at 18:02:57, Christophe Theron wrote: >On November 21, 1999 at 20:36:21, Pete Galati wrote: > >>On November 21, 1999 at 17:25:15, Jari Huikari wrote: >> >>>On November 21, 1999 at 14:28:58, Pete Galati wrote: >>> >>>>With Sargon 5 you have to be in Dos, it won't work in a Dos window >>>>at all. Sargon III however might be a different story, it might be willing to >>>>run in a Dos window. >>> >>>I guess no "PC VIC-emulator" could help me to run my Sargon II, because >>>it's on cartridge! (which needs muscles of Samson to be placed to it's hole >>>in VIC's backside. :-) >>> >>>I hope to find somewhere working TV-modulator for my VIC. All the other >>>parts are still working, but it's too much "blindfold", if the screen >>>doesn't show you even the coordinates of computer's moves. :-) >>> >>>If I get a modulator I could challenge the program with my Nero or >>>perhaps with other opponents too by corresponding the moves. >>> >>>Only problem I remember: When I did board setups with Sargon II, it >>>didn't allow double pawn moves like e2-e4... And I'd like to switch VIC >>>off while waiting for opponents moves. >>> >>>In junior high school we played with a friend a game Sargon II v. Sargon II >>>with two VICs (level 6). Black's second move 2...Nc6 took about one hour and >>>later the game slowed down even more... I don't remember if we had enough >>>patience to ever finish the game. :-) >>> >>> Jari >> >>I'd never seen the older Sargons, even though Sargon 5 is very dated, it seems >>to be somewhat advanced compared to what you describe. I went back to Dos and >>played a couple games against it today since it's name came up, very enjoyable >>games, Sargon plays very different Chess than the modern programs. I'd recomend >>the program to people but everyone wants sleek modern interfaces and everything, >>and Sargon does not have that. >> >>Pete > > >Sargon V for PC is not bad. > >It is the PC port of the very famous Mach II dedicated computer. > >The interesting thing about it is that it uses hash tables (but you have to boot >with an EMS driver), and that it is a brute-force program with no extensions. I >think there is not even the check extension, and that it does almost no >selectivity (just plain alpha-beta). > >So it's interesting because it is sometimes able to find holes against a >selective program. > >However generally it gets killed because of lack of depth in its search. > >I can run it in a W95 DOS box, so I don't understand why you can't. I might need to sit down and try other pif settings for it's shortcut, as it is now it restarts into Dos before starting. > >This program has been sold with at least two different names: >* Sargon V >* World Class Chess > >Sargon V is protected: it asks you for some works you have to pick in the manual >(please enter the word page 4, paragraph 5, line 2). I have bypassed this by >running it a lot of times and writting down each word I have been asked for in a >text file. > >It happens that the program can only ask for 50 words, no more. So with a little >text file you can always give the answer and run it. > >This is no pirating, I have bought this program and have the original manual and >floppies! > > > > Christophe Someone else at rgcc mentioned having to enter a word, there seems to be a difference between Sargon 5 versions. He had bought his copy in a store (you probably did too) but I got mine by paying for a download ($16.95) so they probably made some changes to the program for the download version because I don't have to enter a word from the manual. One odd problem that I have with Sargon is that I need to start it, quit the program, and then start it again to get it to make sound, this I usually do because I like to hear a beep when it moves. Allowing Sargon to play it's taunting music when it makes a move is too hard to handle though. Pete
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