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Subject: Re: Fritz is a GM

Author: Shaun Graham

Date: 16:46:35 07/14/98

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On July 14, 1998 at 10:43:27, Don Dailey wrote:

>On July 13, 1998 at 11:57:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 13, 1998 at 10:30:31, Shaun Graham wrote:
>>
>>>PS #2! :)
>>>
>>>You don't have to defeat GM's to qaulify for the title, you simply have to
>>>perform at a certain level in events of a certain category.  In swiss system
>>>tournaments fritz could get paired against almost all 2300-2400 opponents,
>>>defeat them and have a performance well over 2500 ELO.  This isn't even taking
>>>into consideration, the 1 out of 4 tourneys where fritz would defeat someone of
>>>the calliber of GM Kotronias.
>>
>>
>>Sorry, but this is mistaken.  You have to play in a tournament of a known
>>"category" and produce a result >= X where X varies based on the category
>>of the tournament.  And it *guarantees* that you are going to have to play
>>and beat GM's to get the required 3 GM norms...  Or you are going to have to
>>roll over a *bunch* of IM players which is just as good.
>
>Hi Shaun,
>
>I think Bob is more correct on this one.   The problem is that if you
>continue to beat up on weaker players, then you are virtually guaranteed
>some pairings with stronger players.  I don't think these tournaments
>have very many weaker players anyway.  But if you can "roll over" these
>weaker players consistantly, then you probably are playing at grandmaster
>strength.   I think it's EXTREMELY unlikely, perhaps impossible to get
>a GM norm  without hanging with the Grandmasters.

Sorry i never said that you wouldn't play any titled players.  What i said is
that you could play a number of 2300-2450 players and beat them, this would give
you the necessary performance rating, you might play a GM, doesn't mean you are
going to lose, after all fritz did beat GM Kotronias a game in this match, if
you extrapolated a bit on that data, you could posit that fritz would beat a GM
1 in every 4 tournaments, thus giving rather good possibilities of getting a
norm.  Further you have 5 years to acquire the norm, in that time period (less
most likely) you would have achieved those norms.
>
>- Don



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