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Subject: Re: What is the thinking game that gives programmers more money?

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 12:37:59 06/07/02

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Go programs have the potential to make more money I suppose, but currently I
don't think anyone would buy a go program because currently go programs are a
joke. An amateur novice level go player can beat current go programs. They are
very weak.

From the opening position of a game of chess, there are 20 options for white.
Using alpha-beta and good pruning techniques, maybe you can get a good branching
factor. For a go program, there are 361 options from the opening position. Using
alpha-beta and whatever pruning techniques you'd like, you aren't going to get
any kind of managable branching factor.

What irritates me when discussing this topic with go players is that go players
seem to think that there is something innately more difficult about their game.
In other words, they seem to hold the attitude that their game takes more mental
capacity, or one has to be more intelligent to play go or something, when the
reality is that go is a much simpler game and the only thing making it hard is
it's incredibly high branching factor when trying to analyze variations.

I think it is very likely that even the best go players in the world play
horrible when compared to a program that could solve go. I think in chess it is
not so. I think that the best chess players in the world would not make complete
fools of themselves when playing a perfect playing chess program.

In any case, I would never buy a go program unless it was at least master level,
which no program currently is or has any hopes of being any time in the near
future.

Russell



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