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Subject: Re: And the reason to purchase CSTal is what again?

Author: Shep

Date: 05:59:01 08/24/99

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On August 23, 1999 at 07:19:57, Thorsten Czub wrote:


>If a human beeing ovrsteps it, the human also loses.
>Has a human a bug in his program ? :-)

Maybe we should thank the Lord that you are not writing a calculator or spell
checker!? ;-)))

>nonsense. I have seen Mark V using time for openings although mark v played
>out of book. mark v emulated the consideration time about book moves !

Is this a qualified statement? Have you talked to the Mark V programmer or are
you just guessing what was happening?

>the user can use the time-control setup to make sure it cannot overstep time.
>i have done so in tournaments. only if the operator is stupid or slow,
>programs overstep time-controls. so your problem is no bug but a wrong
>handling of the program !!

Hmmm, in that case, two observations:
a) If this is wrong handling of the program, it is certainly due to the manual
not stating _anything_ you're talking about here. Then the manual is incomplete
and, consequently, buggy.
b) If CSTal indeed were intentionally overstepping time controls, to what TC
should the user set the time controls then? Can we be sure that 40/110 will not
overstep a 40/120 time control.

Hm, Thorsten, I really wonder what would happen if I published a series of CSTal
losses where it played at 40/100 and the other programs at 40/120... Shall I
guess? ;-)

>Nonsense. if black oversteps time and white has not seen it, black
>can mate white. if white is too stupid to look on the clock he/it is mate
>before he/it has seen it.

Can somebody with knowledge of FIDE rules clarify this? If the flag falls, it's
over, even if it's discovered later on, or am I wrong here?
(Besides, I doubt modern tournament clocks would not shout a warning in that
case.)

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Shep



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