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Subject: Re: Multiple processors on one chip...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:08:58 03/03/00

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On March 03, 2000 at 09:18:13, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On March 03, 2000 at 07:59:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>By the end of the year there will be more than just AMD.  At least two other
>>companies will likely have a product with such an architecture by year's end.
>
>I'm all for this.
>
>The press releases I've read (AMD, IBM, Compaq) imply that two top-of-the-line
>processors are going to be combined onto one monster die.
>
>I find this a little annoying. Things like out-of-order execution, branch
>prediction, speculative execution, register renaming, etc. all burn silicon real
>estate (not to mention make the control logic impossible to understand), and I
>don't really see the benefits.
>
>I mean, the original Pentium didn't do any of this stuff, and it does more per
>clock cycle than a P6.
>
>I would really like to see some benchmarks of a processor with speculative
>execution turned on vs. off.
>
>I can't imagine that out-of-order execution is doing anything useful,
>considering the optimizing compilers we have these days...
>
>-Tom


Problem is the compilers don't know what is going on.  IE how many "hidden"
registers does the architecture have for renaming?  Intel (nor anyone else)
will make this a 'constant'.

And how does the P5 do more per cycle than a P6 when the p6 can do three
ops/cycle, while the P5 drags along at a max of 2, and it requires a very
good compiler to do two at a time???



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