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Subject: Re: Computer's are Grandmasters....Until next loss

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 20:56:07 06/09/01

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No.  I don't think so.  It was only 2 games, and not even tournament length
games at that.

When I saw how easily Petr defeated Deep Shredder, I was amazed.  He was
kibitz'ing most of the game.  Like he didn't even have to concentrate.

Remember, he said that Deep Shredder performance was approx. 2100-2200 FIDE in
the game against him?  (Which it played 100x worse against him, I agree.)  Guess
what Petr said about these games?

Thoughts on ending of game 1:

Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: it's very difficult for human to play positions with
compensations for a pawn

Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: may be just white has no sufficient compensation :)
Project played like Machine :))

Game 2:

Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: 4...Bxc3?

Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: I beat Jrlok never play Bxc3 vs human GM :)

Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: please think about it :)

Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: comp played opening like patzer again

And about the series:

Petrovich(GM) tells you: hmm, comp played like 2200 in the closed position and
like 2600 in open :) It's hard to evaluate his strength

Petrovich(GM) tells you: so, 2200+2600 / 2 = 2400 :) lol



Petr and I just went over quickly the games.  These are not annotated or
anything, just general conversation on the games.

Also, please be aware that when I played Petr, I did _NOT_ prepare at all.  I
asked him for a game, and we played.  Having been singled out by JRLOK, I
prepared an better book.  This time when I played JRLOK, there was no in & out
of book problems.

Shredder played a much better game this time around, than last.  However, I am
not ready to say that Shredder is GM strength.  Like Robert said, to be 2600 you
have to play like a 2600 every game.  Not 2100 here and 2700 here.  2600 ALL THE
TIME.

I am planning more and more GM vs Shredder games.  Perhaps at the end of this
year, we can make a FAIR guess at Deep Shredder's ELO.


Slate



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